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Got this photo and info emailed to me this morning by a hunting buddy---that is one BIG cat...
I have not checked into the validity of the story, merely posting what I received...
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This lion was harvested March 2nd 2009 by Bear Basin Outfitters in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. It may be one of the largest...if not the largest mountain lion ever taken in the state. It weighed close to 200 pounds, was 8'3" long from nose to tail and was aged at 12 years old. The lion was missing a toe on the right foot and was identified as the same lion that killed one of the guides dogs two years prior.
The hunter was Scott Terry of Wyoming and the Bear
Basin Outfitters guide and houndsman was Jason Reinhardt.
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Jesus, that is huge.
8ft !!!
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do they cross cougar with african lion in that area ?
wow he is big.
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Wow! That thing is enormous!!! I'd guess the weight to be 300lbs by the photo. While out hunting with Caprivi outside of Buffalo, Wy. this past October, a good friend of the family shot a nice Mountain Lion while I was there. He video taped the whole episode and I have to say I was pretty impressed with the hunt.
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Heck of a lion, sure don't look like he'd want to run far or tree up too easy.
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That must be a really small guy, or a massive cat, i didnt think they were that big at all.
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That is a really big lion regardless of the size of the fellow holding it!
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Ripp
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Have seen quite a few dead and several living, that were treed..don't think I have ever seen anything this big..
One big kitty...
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Gads! - must be genetically altered from eating steroid-enhanced beef! Yes - even if the guy holding it was small, that is a big cat and he is a strong fellow indeed.
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passed this along to a buddy here who's a passionate cat hunter.
his reply; "rich the ridge in the background is above campcreek where the sheep winter.the skull only
taped 14 and seven eights, but what a monster. all the stuff is true about what you read here."
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would love to see the tree this guy could be in....
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That thing is huge!!!
I bet that the local cattle and elk population breathe a sigh of relief knowing he is gone!!!
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That thing is huge!!!
I bet that the local cattle and elk population breathe a sigh of relief knowing he is gone!!!
there are no range cattle during the winter where this cat was killed and few if any in the summer. generally they are not know to prey heavily on elk in this area.
the area the cat was taken is well known big game winter range for bighorn sheep and mule deer. sheep can often be seen on or near the highway during the winter months and deer by the hundreds on the southern exposures.
bout a mile and a half from my former residence.
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That thing is huge!!!
I bet that the local cattle and elk population breathe a sigh of relief knowing he is gone!!!
No doubt, but rscott is right for the most part about elk. Lion do prey on calves as do all the larger predators and even to a small degree, coyotes.
I jumped one off a rock ledge about 10 yards in front of me a few years ago while grouse hunting. It wasn't near as large as this monster, but it sure spooked me. It hit the ground right in front of me and took off down the mountain thru the timber. Looking at that giant makes me cringe at the thought of that thing landing on my back under similar circumstances. I'd have been pasted to the ground before I knew what hit me!
A few years ago a friend who is a real estate agent was looking at a piece of property in the winter. In deep powdery snow he set off down a logging road by a cut bank and after pushing snow for a while he finally gave up and decided to return to the pickup. Just before he planned to stop to turn around he heard a "Whump" behind him and as he turned he drew his Smith M28 Highway Patrolman he carried for grouse and such. Good thing as he was facing a big lion semi-crouched in the snow behind him, it having leapt off the cutbank. He got one shot off before it leapt again and tagged it somewhere in the body. The thing blew up like a house cat and took off into the woods spurting red all over. He was pretty shook up.
I've been in on the killing of a couple of these things and while the races are pretty boring compared to a good bear race, they are without a doubt a beautiful animal and pretty neat to watch in a tree 10 feet away. They don't seem to care to climb as high as a bear, and will sometimes merely climb just out of reach of the hounds and sit there almost tantalizing them.
And yes, the deer population breathes easier...
A couple years ago we had one killing deer in my neighbor's driveway in front of her house during the drought. It set up shop right by her house and she was mortified at losing her horses to it, but it never monkeyed with them, tho it did spook them. She woke up one night to a bloodcurdling screaming bleating of a deer that was in process of being killed. I saw that lion in my sunburned hayfield just by accident. We were standing in the front lawn and I saw it leap out of the grass onto something in front of it. Bedded deer?
The biologists tell us lion kill approximately one deer per week, about 50/year.
Save a deer, kill a lion actually should read, save 50 deer a year, kill a lion...
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The biologists tell us lion kill approximately one deer per week, about 50/year.
Save a deer, kill a lion actually should read, save 50 deer a year, kill a lion...
Indeed. If deer have a "Boogey Man" that haunts them, it would be the Mountain Lion.
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Indeed. If deer have a "Boogey Man" that haunts them, it would be the Mountain Lion.
True enough, tho lion numbers are relatively low and have been relatively easily managed.
For some time I've doubted the commonly repeated line that wolves exclusively take elk while elk are available, having seen substantial wolf activity among whitetail deer..
Recently, I read a study that noted the primary research showing wolf predation on elk was done in Yellowstone Park, where of course elk predominate and where the deer species is mule deer in uch less dense populations than whitetails here.
A study done in Western Montana showed deer to be the primary prey of wolves there. Thus, I feel that may apply elsewhere as well and may occur here, too. F&G's management plan recognises this as a possiblity.
Studies now indicate 16+ ungulates per wolf per year, but this of course implies the larger prey are the largest percentage of kills. More information will of course be made public as studies continue. I just spoke to a farmer on the other side of the mountains in the western part of the county. He notes heavy elk damage to some of his field crops, and describes larger herds of elk being pushed over the mountains by wolves into his fields there.
We see this in a different way; elk have left the area for longer and longer times, and it appears to me that the coyotes are actually following the wolves that are following the elk, killing deer as targets of opportunity along the way. I believe but cannot prove that the coyotes are following the wolves to make use of carcasses from "joy" killing. Wolves have been noted to very frequently kill for sport or just out of instinct, leaving carcasses untouched. SOMETHING is making use of those carcasses, and I suspect it is yotes along with the obvious eagles and other woods trash that wades in, too.
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Indeed. We see this in a different way; elk have left the area for longer and longer times, and it appears to me that the coyotes are actually following the wolves that are following the elk, killing deer as targets of opportunity along the way. I believe but cannot prove that the coyotes are following the wolves to make use of carcasses from "joy" killing. Wolves have been noted to very frequently kill for sport or just out of instinct, leaving carcasses untouched. SOMETHING is making use of those carcasses, and I suspect it is yotes along with the obvious eagles and other woods trash that wades in, too.
Believe you are close to correct on some of this--find it interesting that ALL the cow elk have moved out of the Gallatin for winter range---with only bulls there which seem to do quite well as long as they have their antlers...
Yet over in the Madison--there are lots of cows and calves--but also lots of wolves as well...but you still see the coyotes over there as well...at first I would have thought the wolves would have hammered the yotes...but they seem to persevere...
The wolf issue is not going to go away until appropriate measure are taken ..and even then I feel it will only be minimized...
Perfect example--have a new next door neighbor---spoke to him the other day..he moved here from New York..figured he was cool as he hunts, fishes, etc...he is retired..and for something to do started doing survey work with hunters for the Fish and Game...he goes off on how every one he calls is pissed about wolves, wolves, wolves...and he can't understand it...said they (wolves) will take care of themselves..and once the game is gone their (wolves) numbers will diminish...are you F*(&%$#g serious...so this idiots answer is to let the populations of elk and deer get totally decimated and then the wolves nunbers will decrease...WOW...while I agree that this probably would happen if left unchecked as it has in Alaska and other areas....why in the hell do we want the entire herds removed from the ecosystem??..amazing....
Hope he moves back.... 
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What an impressive animal!!!
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the area the cat was taken is well known big game winter range for bighorn sheep and mule deer.
Then it would be a great place to find winter kills of Class IV rams. Are you allowed to keep skull plates/horns of animals there? Would the horns have to be inspected and plugged?
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Wow, it is really big. Congratulations.
Oscar.
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Now he's in Pelican Lake, Wisconsin.
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what for agreat trophy! its the size of an african lion, isnt it?
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The picture above and the following description was emailed to my brother.
"Here is a photo of a cougar killed in Pelican La=e, WI. =BR> The guy who shot it is 6 foot tall and weighs abou= 220 lbs. =BR> He was in a deer stand near Consolidated Rd. and=County
Hwy.= B. He saw it pass him upwind and then=down wind. When&nbs=;
the cat passed him again he knew that it was=hunting him, so -=SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&=bsp;
boom. After viewing this, do you still=feel safe in the woods?"
I think it's the same cat in a slightly different pose.
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Now he's in Pelican Lake, Wisconsin.
Is that JJ Hack.. . If so that photo might be a few years old???
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Nitro
That is JJ Hack. He shot that Lion East of North Bend Washington about 5 years ago. Seems like it weighed around 250 if I remember.
Funny how stories get passed around.
You can find that picture and the story by searching on 24 Hour Campfire
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