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63lb. PAC elephant huh?
these hunts amount to nothing more than 'gray area' poaching of elephant for profit under the guise of 'PAC', the most abused concept in zimbabwean hunting the last few years.
why do you think they're non-exportable? there is no scientifically based management practice involved in the killing of these numbers, therefore no CITIES permits.
some government minister or general has an appropriated farm or concession with no quota, or the district council of a certain CAMPFIRE area and the districts' minister want a little bigger piece of the action. and there's no shortage of white Zimbabweans, many with only indirect ties to the hunting industry, lining up for a piece either.
some so called PAC is being conducted bordering national park areas within the former 'exclusion' zones, where now there are farms (in name only) ON the park borders. Chizarira NP, Sengwa Research, Charisa Safari Area, Tsholotsho to name just a few that i've seen first hand.
there is some genuine need for PAC, but the abuses of the last few years are way beyond ethical and many border on criminal IMO.

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well unless this " past president of SABBA and the next incoming president of PHASA " is a licensed PH in Zimbabwe, then he's still 'bending' the rules to meet his personal needs. or his clients are being charged thousands extra for him to accompany them for a safari outfitted by Zimbabwean companies, which is the normal practice for the 'honest' unlicensed South African outfitters hunting in Zim.
in fairness, some clients are ok with that in the interest of expediency.
either way, the elephants are getting screwed.

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You can read into it 10 ways from Sunday. If you re Read my last post he is arranging the trip not guiding it. They have partners in Zim that they have been hunting with for many years. There is no funny business here. You know, now that I think about it I'm not sure why I'm arguing with you regarding this trip. I going and am just trying offer an opportunity to other's if they want to tag along. These Elephants are raiding crops thus making them PAC. As you can see plainly in the photos below they are in CORN fields within Villages surrounded by local natives. This is why they are on PAC permits... The offer stands but it looks like they are down to only 2 tags left.





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Prices for 10 Days 1 Elephant $9,500.00 then each additional after that is $7,500.00 per elephant (All Inclusive)
Prices for 7 Days 1 Elephant is $8,500.00 then each additional after that is $7,500.00 per Elephant (All Inclusive)

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The additional elephant to me looks very expensive. Usually additional elephant on PAC hunt can be had for a "trophy fee" only.


The elephant in the photo certainly has been shot in a shamba though. Nice photos.



As for the weight of ivory, shooting bigger ivory can be the case. Shaun Buffee when doing his Zim PH's licence ele hunt shot I think a 73 lb elephant. And could not afford the ivory to keep. Probably the best he will shoot.



PS I left this post for the benefit of members, however if it is a commercial sales post by an agent it does require a sponsorship/advertising fee.

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