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mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68
      #126457 - 10/02/09 12:25 AM

thats a realy rare cartridge in the mannlicher -schönauer, first I ever see
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=1833182&PHPSESSID=86442d3912f9cad6ce053c05bcc01ccd









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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: lancaster]
      #126508 - 10/02/09 11:21 AM

I could be tempted by that rifle.

What is the year of manufacture? If it says.

Pity it only has a 24 inch barrel. Needs 26 inches or 650 mm.

I've seen a 8x68S advertised in M-S before but have misplaced or lost the photos.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: lancaster]
      #127155 - 15/02/09 06:40 PM

Very nice, Lancaster.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #127168 - 15/02/09 08:22 PM

Buy it, it's very cheap and they try to sale it a lot of months!

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: grandveneur]
      #153408 - 12/02/10 07:02 AM

Here is another Mannlicher-Schoenauer in 6.5x68. It's got a 26"barrel and a 6x42 Hensoldt "Diatal" scope in claw mounts. I had to refinish the stock slightly and replaced the perished ventilated white-line recoil pad with the one shown. in one aspect it is quite unusual: The inscription on the receiver ring reads "Mod. 1950"! It clearly has a post-1952 "Magnum" action with the reinforced "safety lug" abutment behind the straight bolthandle. Other than the M1950 actions, there are no clip guides, but the secondary sliding sear-block safety, the low bolt handle and the inside-stock blank on the left side (to facilitate a side-mount) of the post-1952 models are there. It was proofed in 1959. Why then the M1950 moniker? The post-1952 models usually ber designations independent of action style, but relating to stock styles: "MC" with an exaggerated monte-carlo comb, "MCA" with am ore restrained m-c butt and the European "GK" for Grader Kolben = straight buttstock. So one would expect a GK on this rifle, but there is still a difference: The "GK" had the same fuller, black-tipped foreend like the MC or MCA with a bottom mounted conventional sling swivel, perhaps to streamline manufacture, but this rifle sports the slim, pre-war style foreend with a stirrup sling swivel, last used on the Mod.1950, so the factory stamped this on the receiver ring.




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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: kuduae]
      #153413 - 12/02/10 07:51 AM

I have two dream rifles, that rifle and in that calibre and a H&H Kurtz in 250-3000. Buy it.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: tophet1]
      #153453 - 12/02/10 04:57 PM

it looks now very , very pc with the other recoil pad
allmost ever little things make the difference

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: lancaster]
      #153461 - 12/02/10 08:41 PM

No, this is not the same rifle as the one posted by Lancaster on top of this page! The one on top is a very late M-S as there is the tang safety, while mine has the earlier safety slide on the right side.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: kuduae]
      #157699 - 28/03/10 09:24 AM

I would happily put both of those rifles in my safe. They wouldn't be safe queens as those rifle are meant to be used. Good photos. You have a very interesting one kuduae.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: Rule303]
      #158107 - 02/04/10 07:59 PM

I had a model 1950 in 7x64 but it had no side safety, just a wing safety, so sold it. I think the model 1952 had the extra safety and some other features. In between, in 1951, I think there were transitional ones but still marked M.1950. I'm a bit surprised that the magnum model is marked 1950 though. The Shooter's Bible around this period will describe the 1950 and 1952 models faetures, but I thought the magnum turned up around 1958 or thereabouts. The Mannlicher's Collectors Club should be able to be more specific.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
      #158764 - 12/04/10 06:02 AM

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I'm a bit surprised that the magnum model is marked 1950 though. The Shooter's Bible around this period will describe the 1950 and 1952 models faetures, but I thought the magnum turned up around 1958 or thereabouts. The Mannlicher's Collectors Club should be able to be more specific.


This rifle was proofed in 1957, so it is an early Magnum action, but with all post-1952 details, except the stock. The stock has the slimmer butt and foreend of the 1950 model, not the later, fuller foreend of the "models" MC, MCA, and GK. These model designations did not refer to different actions, but only to different stock shapes! The sometimes seen Modell NO seems to be for special order rifles that did not fit into the standart catalog patterns, such as a full-stocked 9.3x62, 24"barrel I know. So I think: As my rifle had a 1950-style stock, someone at the factory stamped on Modell 1950.
BTW, as both the M.C.A. and the GGCA usually ask me about such niceties, there is little use asking them. But the MCA knows about this rifle anyhow.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: kuduae]
      #160539 - 16/05/10 11:17 AM

The model 1950 had the trim stock and the straight bolt handle. It was available in Europe up until about 1958, when it was renamed model NO (NOrmal ausfuhrung). I had a full stock 1959 NO in 9.3x62 that was near identical to my 1957 model 1950, also a full stock 9.3x62.

The model 1952 had the trim stock and the curved bolt handle. It was also available in Europe up until about 1958, when it was renamed the GK (Gebogener Kammergriff).

Some 1952's and GK's had the heavier stock with the black forend tip, but this was mainly at the request of Stoeger for the tasteless American market

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: KurtC]
      #160883 - 23/05/10 06:39 AM

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The model 1952 had the trim stock and the curved bolt handle. It was also available in Europe up until about 1958, when it was renamed the GK (Gebogener Kammergriff) = bent bolthandle.



Hi KurtC, As the other post-1952 models MC and MCA were named for their buttstock shape, Monte-Carlo and Monte Carlo Amerikanisch, both with swept-back bolthandles too, and the designation "GK" is also found on 6.5x68 and 8x68 magnum rifles with straight bolthandles, I rather believe "GK" stands for "Grader Kolben" = straight buttstock.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: kuduae]
      #161151 - 29/05/10 03:10 AM

You can never say with 100% assurance anything about a Mannlicher-Schoenauer as far as calibers or dates or characteristics. The 1950-1950 Improved-1952 and 1956 MC models are all intertwined as Steyr just used up the receiver as they found them. Don't forget that they even had US market and Euro market models. The Magnums were listed in Stoegers from 1959-1968, but as everyone is pointing out, the only real proof is in the proof date on the barrel and receiver. Steyr would make special order guns for anyone with money too, and remember that Stoeger listed the calibers as 6.5mm and 7mm in the catalogue, when the actual availability was 6.5x54mm, 6.5x55mm, 6.5x57mm, 6.5x68mm, 7x57mm, and 7x64mm. Confusing to say the least.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: Larry]
      #164920 - 24/07/10 09:04 PM

In that time period, they had different boxes witrh parts from different years. They never stopped using any part that would fit until the box was empty, then that part would e upgraded to the new specification.

John is correct, that cartridge really needs a 26"/650mm barrel. Those scopes look pretty impressive.

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Re: mannlicherschönauer in 6,5x68 [Re: lawndart]
      #164972 - 25/07/10 08:18 PM

I like kuduae's rifle with its suitable length barrel. Set triggers too, good for precision shooting from a long reaching calibre.

Like both of them.

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