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RHB
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Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock?
      #125327 - 29/01/09 04:11 AM

I plan to use my Type A ( http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=121257&an=0&page=0#Post121257 ) but to save the original stock getting damaged I am thinking of ordering another stock.

Would the Hogue Overmolded pillar bedded stock accept the Type A action? If not, are there any other stocks that could serve the intended purpose?

Thanks.

Rustam

Edited by RHB (29/01/09 04:16 AM)

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #125336 - 29/01/09 09:21 AM

I bought a Hogue stock for a Mauser and I hate it. It's too fat and the grip is too close. It changes the balance of the gun. You'll spend a lot more money but will be more satisfied with a McMillan ($250) or High Tech ($225)stock. A lot less money will buy you a RamLine for $80. You'll have to sand out the mold lines and I'd recommend filling the butt with foam insulation to cut down noise.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: vol423]
      #125346 - 29/01/09 12:52 PM

vol717,

Was this for a Type A or a milsurp sporter?

I have been told that the barrel contour of a Type A may not be the same as those found on milsurp sporters. I need to verify if this is true.

Thanks.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #125414 - 30/01/09 08:21 AM

Nice Type A Pattern No1 you have there Rustam.
I have same in .404 Jeffery (standard length action opened up from original 10.75x68) and planned to put it into an off the shelf Mauser M98 synthetic stock.

I would have had to open up the mag space and the barrel channel in the plastic fantastic to take the .404J magazine box and larger barrel contour. Other than that everything else lined up. In the end I just didn't like the look of plastic.
Some time in the future I will probably have another nice stock made in walnut and keep the original Mauser factory stock as is.

These rifles are made to hunt and I have committed the "cardinal sin" so to speak, of drilling and tapping for a Weaver bridge mount from the receiver to the rear of the multi leaf safari sight (exactly same height - no packers required). Originally for a green dot sight but now a Leupold 2x extended eye relief scope in low Weaver rings sits in place. Fantastic to use with both eyes open, and can be quickly removed to use the open sights straight down the centre of the mount if required. The great Pondoro Taylor would even approve as he suggested the very same set up in his African Rifles & Cartridges book.

In short, your standard action should fit into any of the stocks made for the M98 Mauser.

Cheers.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: eagle27]
      #125438 - 30/01/09 03:08 PM

Hi Eagle27,

Which synthetic stock did you look at when considering one for your Type A?

The reason I am more inclined towards synthetic is because I am toying with the idea of fabricating a scopemount rail that would be fixed to the stock.

Thanks.

Rustam

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #125444 - 30/01/09 04:39 PM

Hi Rustam

Was a Butler Creek synthetic stock sent to me to try for a fit with my .404 Mauser. It had come on a 1908 DWM Mauser an aquaintance was playing around and was surplus to his needs. I was keen to see if any of the synthetic stocks available for the military M98 actions would fit the standard length Oberndorf sporter actions. It appears they do although as previously mentioned, some may need opening up to suit barrel contours and magazines for larger cartridges.

The Butler Ck stock seemed quite lightly constructed, weighing about the same as my original Mauser stock which has been cross bolted in three places to prevent stock splitting. I was a little apprehensive that the synthetic would stand up to the .404 recoil without some cross bolting as well.

Cheers.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: eagle27]
      #125445 - 30/01/09 06:11 PM

Thanks, Eagle27.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #125633 - 02/02/09 05:29 AM

I guess the stocks also are a personal preference. Some
like Hogue, some don't.
Having four rifles with Hogue stocks proves that they
at least fit me well. I just completed a 404Jeff based
on a Mauser action and with a Hogue stock and to me it
feels perfect. I chose the model with the full length
aluminum bedding block and according to the gunsmith
it was a pleasure to fit. He made the necessary
modifications for an extra recoil-lug and it fits
perfectly. I am off to Central Africa in March for
some Buffalo and antilopes and will be bringing my
404 and 338 both with Hogue stocks.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: pjotr]
      #125686 - 03/02/09 12:31 AM

Hi Pjotr,

One of the reasons I wanted a synthetic or laminated stock, other than protecting the original, was so that I could fabricate and mount a scopemount rail to the stock. However, I am currently working on a design that would fit on the action without drilling and tapping or affecting the originality of the rifle in any way. Hence, I may now buy the Richards Microfit's Classic or Modern Classic in walnut or perhaps laminate as the style resembles the current Mauser stock.

Thanks for the reply and have a memorable safari.

Could those of you who have used Richard Microfits hardwood and laminated stocks please give me some feedback. Thanks.

Rustam

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #127539 - 19/02/09 06:37 PM

Hi Rustam,

I have all 3 of the stocks mentioned- a Hogue, a Butler Creek, and a Richards.

For what you are considering in regards to a scope mounting the Hogue will not work due to how it is made (rubber over a plastic frame). I think the Richards stock in a laminate would be the best option for you to fettle with as far as mounting a scope.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: Rancid_Crabtree]
      #127558 - 20/02/09 02:23 AM

Thanks, Mark.

How would you rate the Richards Microfit wooden or laminate stock?

Rustam

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #127605 - 20/02/09 10:38 PM

I don't know about the wood stocks, mine is a laminate (black/grey combo which looks pretty nice) and my first thoughts was that it was a bit on the heavy side compared to walnut. However it is a very stable stock, you can't make it distort by squeezing the barrel channel but if you were to rasp away a half pound of wood then you might. The inletting was fine, my action just dropped right in.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: Rancid_Crabtree]
      #127767 - 23/02/09 01:03 AM

The 'pepper' laminate would be my first choice as well, should I decide to scope the rifle.

Which action did you put in this stock?

Thanks.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: RHB]
      #128131 - 26/02/09 04:09 PM

Don't laugh, but I put a Ruger 10/22 into a thumbhole silhouette w/cheekpiece stock. If that wasn't heavy enough, I also put a .920" barrel on it. So it is a nice shooting, nice looking gun that is way too heavy to carry around!

If you're interested, I have a Rem 700 in the Hogue and a M70 in the Butler Creek.

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: Rancid_Crabtree]
      #128227 - 27/02/09 07:50 AM

Just a word of caution, Richard's stocks for Mausers are generally not a drop in fit. In fact, quite a bit of work is required to fit them (I ordered one for an FN mauser, and it had to have a LOT of material removed. Also, remember that laminates are tough on tools. i.e. I wouldn't use my best scrapers or chisels on them. The resin used to make the laminate tears up/dulls steel tooling (hence why you don't see many with hand checkered patterns...surest way to trash your checkering tools...experience talking here).

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Re: Oberndorf Type A Mauser in a Hogue overmolded stock? [Re: MarinePMI]
      #128243 - 27/02/09 12:04 PM

Thanks for the warnings. Duly noted.

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