Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact
NitroExpress.com: new HVA M146 loading

View recent messages : 24 hours | 48 hours | 7 days | 14 days | 30 days | 60 days | More Smilies


*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***
You are not logged in. [Login] Main Index · Search · Active Topics
New user · Who's Online · FAQ · Calendar

Shooting & Reloading - Mausers, Big Bores and others >> Mauser Discussion Forum
Previous topic Previous   View all topics Index   Next topic Next   Threaded Mode Threaded  

Pages: 1
LarrysGrip
.224 member


Reged: 09/12/07
Posts: 34
Loc: Upstate, SC, USA
new HVA M146 loading
      #124827 - 22/01/09 10:40 AM

The bug bit me and I've got to load up 9.3x57 for my new HVA M146. Hornady dies and Privi bullets should be here tomorrow. I will be reforming some Winchester 8x57 and later some Privi 8x57 brass (when the backorder comes through). I have reloaded 6.5x55; 8mm and 30-06 previously. What suggestions do you have as I prepare to launch the 9.3x57 round? Thank you.

Edited by LarrysGrip (22/01/09 11:20 AM)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
88MauSporter
.375 member


Reged: 06/06/07
Posts: 530
Loc: Alaska / Texas
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: LarrysGrip]
      #124829 - 22/01/09 10:46 AM

Larry:
I used to live in Upstate SC. Nice country.
Is your HVA 146 a 9.3x57 or an 8X57?
Does it have an 1898 action or the 1896?

They are great rifles either way, when you get a good one. I just scoped my M46 and will post some photos shortly.

--------------------
"A hunter should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everthing goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." 88MauSporter

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
LarrysGrip
.224 member


Reged: 09/12/07
Posts: 34
Loc: Upstate, SC, USA
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #124833 - 22/01/09 11:24 AM

I believe I saw a post with pictures of a M46 that had been customized. I think it was yours or one like yours from the same gunsmith. Who did your work and what all did you ask the gunsmith to do? May I ask what those alterations run? Thanks for the heads up. Yes, it's a 9.3x57 on the FN98 action.

--------------------
Larry

Edited by LarrysGrip (22/01/09 11:26 AM)

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
DarylS
.700 member


Reged: 10/08/05
Posts: 26516
Loc: Beautiful British Columbia, Ca...
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: LarrysGrip]
      #124857 - 22/01/09 02:15 PM

Larry - we've had very good luck with RP brass in 8x57. I've tried some Gevelot 9.3x57 brass and the necks were quite thick. I neck new RP 8x57 cases up to .42cal., then size down in a 9.3x57 Hornady die until the case will only just chamber with hard bolt closing. Annealing is not necessary during these steps, nor for one or two firings afterwards. People tend to over anneal. These 'fitted' cases guarantee 0 headspace - the best scenario for starting loading for a rifle. The m46 9.3x57 I have, has a long chamber that is .013" longer than maximum allowable headspace by SAAMI standards - it's .019"(triple the standard SAAMI .006" max allowable) way too long for me. I suggest you do a cerosafe casting or open up the neck of a 8x57 case and do as I've noted just to check chamber dimensions. Because I checked my chamber first, I found the fault, and now it doens't matter at all as my brass fits perfectly. Had I had fired a factory load in my rifle, the primer would almost have backed out all the way. With a heavier almost maximum-type load, the case would have stretched at the web first shot might have separated - and definitley the second would have separated. The M146's and M46's are great rifles, but a few have long chambers & brass must be fit to them properly.

if need be, e-mail me if you want, about this.

--------------------
Daryl


"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
9.3x57
.450 member


Reged: 22/04/07
Posts: 5504
Loc: United States
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: DarylS]
      #124866 - 22/01/09 03:12 PM

Quote:

The M146's and M46's are great rifles, but a few have long chambers & brass must be fit to them properly.




Daryl's right. Some are reported to be long. Be careful!

I have had good experience using a Lee .377 {for .38-56, .38-56, not .38-55} expander in a Lee 7.5x55 die {what I had laying around} for 9.3x62 brass made from Win .30-06 cases and I suspect same will work for x57 if need be.

BTW: The case is run over the expander only and is not allowed to enter the neck/shoulder portion of the 7.5 die. I have gotten hard crush-fitting with this method and have had no need to go beyond .377.

Both my 46 and 146 have chambers that do not need such expansion. Remington and Prvi 8x57 cases expand fine in the Hornady die and headspace A-OK in my rifles. The Prvi case necks are thicker than the Remingtons I've expanded.

--------------------
What are the Rosary, the Cross or the Crucifix other than tools to help maintain the fortress of our faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
88MauSporter
.375 member


Reged: 06/06/07
Posts: 530
Loc: Alaska / Texas
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: LarrysGrip]
      #124930 - 23/01/09 10:17 AM

I have both a M46 (1896 action) and a M146 (FN98 action) in 9.3x57. I did have my M46 scoped by the same gunsmith B. Fausett used for his M46 customizing. Bob's is the one you have seen. Lone Star Armory here in the Houston area did the work. Todd Johnson does good work.
I will post photos of mine shortly. (No time lately) and discribe the work. I kept mine retro to the original, but had the safety altered to a side swing, glass bedded, mounted Warne bases with Warne QD rings and a Leupold 2-7 scope. I will save the rest for my post. I am very pleased.
I have yet to take it out and finish the sight in. I will sight it with the 286 gr loads. The irons shoot those very nicely. I will also see how the factory 232 grains shoot. They seem more readily available in case I need to buy ammo, but I have seen NEW runs of the Norma with the 286 gr Alaskan bullet. I have a box. I have yet to reload for this case and Daryl and 9.3 have the experience. I will likely keep looking and take advantage of info they give you!!
More to come.

--------------------
"A hunter should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everthing goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." 88MauSporter

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
LarrysGrip
.224 member


Reged: 09/12/07
Posts: 34
Loc: Upstate, SC, USA
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #124951 - 23/01/09 02:08 PM

Quote:

I have both a M46 (1896 action) and a M146 (FN98 action) in 9.3x57....The irons shoot those very nicely....I have yet to reload for this case and Daryl and 9.3 have the experience. I will likely keep looking and take advantage of info they give you!!




Sylvain likes the irons with his. Have you shot carefully for grouping at 100 yds? What can I expect for a 3 shot group with irons at 100 yds with my M146 based on your experience? It would be interesting to see your comparison with benchrest groups with irons and then with the scope. I've learned a ton from 9.3, and Sylvain in Canada and just today making an acqaintance with Daryl to glean all the knowledge I can from their insights. Thank you for sharing.

--------------------
Larry

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
88MauSporter
.375 member


Reged: 06/06/07
Posts: 530
Loc: Alaska / Texas
Re: new HVA M146 loading [Re: LarrysGrip]
      #124955 - 23/01/09 02:43 PM

I have shot both rifles with Iron sights. At 100 yards, the 146 shot about 2 1/2 inches with my eyes and Norma Factory loads. The 46 was not far off that. The 146 fit me better with natural alignment of sights without adjusting my head and position. One of the reasons I chose to scope the M46. I will try to put together some comparisons when I brind them to the range and sight the scope. The 232 grain new norma ammo I have actually shot better groups than the old (20 years?) 286 grain I was shooting. I have a new box of fresh Norma 286 now and will work up some handloads as well. I took a ferrel ram in west Texas with the M146 a couple years ago with the 286 gr. Works well on game!

--------------------
"A hunter should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everthing goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." 88MauSporter

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1


Previous topic Previous   View all topics Index   Next topic Next   Threaded Mode Threaded  

Extra information
1 registered and 81 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  NitroX 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 2327

Rate this topic

Jump to

Contact Us NitroExpress.com

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact


Copyright 2003 to 2011 - all rights reserved