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JohnWilkes
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Smoothbore re regulation
      #124628 - 20/01/09 07:09 PM

I seem to remember a post a long while back re a shotgun that had an unfortunate
fishing accident that was converted to a smooth bore slug specific number.

I am interested in how one goes about re regulating etc (I am an engineering duffer but I have a contact who is a gunsmith who might be persuaded into such a job, or even a sxs combination Hmmm )
I am aware that for the more savvy members this is old hat so please dont bust your boiler lads a link would be just great.Intended use scrub gun/fun gun/pig gun.

Also heard recently of Brennekes used on NT buff and scrub bulls??? Whilst I have every respect for the brenneke solid I dont know that it would be my choice.Only ever shot big stuff with rifles(excluding pigs).
I guess at V, close range 50-60 yd or less, but if things went askew, not just a charge, but if a going away follow up shot or so were needed it might be less than optimal, but I really don't know

Info/experience in this area?

PS NO I am not one of the divi kids(Pommy for Special Needs) who thinks 45-70 is a .470 just waiting to evolve nor do I subscribe to any of the other "quaint" notions postulated in some other venues re the hitherto un-discovered elephant stopping capability of the .410 shotgun etc etc.
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Gun for game,
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peter
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #124634 - 20/01/09 07:56 PM

the brennekes are great for pigs, etc.
I dont know about the big stuff, it dosent really get into the 6 drams of black and a hardened round ball class, but it might work under some surcomstances.

cheers

peter

i expect marrkai to jump in anytime soon on this

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Marrakai
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: peter]
      #124644 - 20/01/09 09:27 PM

OK, ok...

The truncated shottie is mine. The previous owner's 'mate' had borrowed it for waterfowl, but thought it would be a hoot to shoot a fish he saw on the day. Stuck the muzzles in the water and pulled the trigger!

When I received the gun, it had been lopped to about 25 inches (the gunsmith wanted the whistle-cocked muzzles for his 'dickhead' hall of fame), anyway it cleaned up to 24 inches OK. Both the top and bottom ribs were blown back banana-peel fashion, just like an Elmer Fudd cartoon!

To regulate it for 1oz solid slugs, I clamped the muzzles touching, then played with the thickness of the packing about midway down the barrels. When it was regulated, I straightened and relaid the ribs. Added a tube-style ghost-ring on the breech-end of the top-rib, and a nice front caterpillar bead, and headed out bush!

I've never done it myself, but a great many full-grown buffalo have been killed cleanly with Brenneke shotgun slugs in northern Australia, also the S-ball Plastik slug. Most of the others can't cut the mustard.

I'm about to embark on a Brenneke spree here in the Top End (thanks, peter!) as soon as the weather permits. We are in the grip of the monsoon for the next month or two, but opportunities do arise...!

...and you are right about the range, JW, no-one would fire a shotgun slug of any kind at a buff further than 40 or 50 metres, without nominating for the previously mentioned hall of fame!

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JohnWilkes
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: Marrakai]
      #124650 - 21/01/09 12:05 AM

You are a scholar and a gentleman sir. My thanks.I/we await the results of your Brennekke spree with interest.

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DarylS
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: JohnWilkes]
      #124690 - 21/01/09 07:28 AM

Breneke's might be OK, but I'd rather use a hard round ball. I think double shotguns usually regulate more easily with them, maybe not. Mine liked both BP loads, middle and heavy ie: 5 drams and 7 drams plus regualted, of all things, with a smokeless equivelent which kicked less than 1/2 as much. RB's of course.

The round balls will run 460gr. to 575gr. depending on size and compositon - all for a 12 bore.

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: DarylS]
      #124876 - 22/01/09 10:54 PM

Marrakai,havent you used those breneke rounds I sent you yet?
Al
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Ps .they work well on big lizards.

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Marrakai
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: ALAN_MCKENZIE]
      #124887 - 23/01/09 12:47 AM

Alan:
Big lizards, tsk tsk!

I carried those factory-loads on our culling trip to the Kimberley in September last year but they were having a dry spell, the cattle had knocked down all the thick stuff along the river, and the shotties stayed in the gunbags.

I have been for another walk with them closer to home, and a morning at Harrison Dam, but the hogs were a no-show.

Believe it or not, Marty and I plan a walk in the rain this weekend, to check out some high-ground bedding areas that may be occupied. You'll be the first to know if we get lucky!

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Marrakai
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Re: Smoothbore re regulation [Re: Marrakai]
      #125117 - 25/01/09 11:40 PM

Al:
I posted a report on shooting those Brenneke factory-loads in the 'Paradox & Bore-guns' forum, FYI.

Hunting report to follow soon (I hope!).

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