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Huvius
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Pre-64??
#122254 - 25/12/08 11:47 AM

I always thought that the designation "pre 64" was specifically a delineation from "controlled feed" original Winchester model 70's and the post '64 push fed model 70's.
Now, I see the term "pre 64" applied to all Winchesters.
Did something else happen at Winchester in 1964?

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SharpsNitro
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Re: Pre-64?? [Re: Huvius]
#122259 - 25/12/08 12:45 PM

The pre-64 appellation is typically associated with the changes to the Model 70 but it is also used as a description for most Winchesters. 1964 was the year Winchester incorporated a lot of new manufacturing techniques to reduce costs so you will see many models, such as the '94, referred to as such. I guess you could say it is the year that Winchester quality took a precipitous decline and never fully recovered.

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Ripp
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Re: Pre-64?? [Re: SharpsNitro]
#122284 - 26/12/08 02:29 AM

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The pre-64 appellation is typically associated with the changes to the Model 70 but it is also used as a description for most Winchesters. 1964 was the year Winchester incorporated a lot of new manufacturing techniques to reduce costs so you will see many models, such as the '94, referred to as such. I guess you could say it is the year that Winchester quality took a precipitous decline and never fully recovered.

And to the above, I might add, though I am far from a Winchester expert, is was I believe sometime in the early 1990's they once again offered the controlled round feed action..realizing the error of their ways..but agree, the quality never did come back..maybe the "NEW" Winchester's will..but think the best is behind us unfortunately..

Ripp

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SharpsNitro
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Re: Pre-64?? [Re: Ripp]
#122341 - 26/12/08 04:14 PM

You could make the case that Winchester ceased to exist as a real company when Olin sold the license to use the name. FN may make a good gun but they will never be a real Winchester.

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