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larcher
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Canned lion, aware of better example????
      #119779 - 29/11/08 09:02 PM

look at this clip!
How artificially is this lion acting?
I dealt with lion in the CAR, no discussion, as soon as the lion has a glimpse or a whiff of human, he'll scamp to the next zip code area.

Bowhunting lion,

I am ashame to be a bow hunter.

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Bramble
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: larcher]
      #119787 - 30/11/08 12:51 AM

IMHO it matter not a bit that it was a bow in this case. That was a sickening and disgracefull spectacle whatever the instrument.
I hope the "hunter" is proud when he looks at that footage. The PH should be ashamed for setting that up.

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shakari
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: Bramble]
      #119796 - 30/11/08 02:38 AM

I simply don't know what to say......... I guess the term fucking disgrace springs to mind.

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Kalunga
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: larcher]
      #119807 - 30/11/08 05:46 AM

Larcher, don`t be ashamed to be a bowhunter ! This asshole that shot this poor tame lion should be ashamed to call himself a hunter. We all know this has nothing at all to do with hunting. I think we hunters should blame these kind of bastards because they ruin our reputation. It is wrong to keep our mouths shut, the urban public tends to generalize so we should condemn such digusting practices. Tony Sanchez did and had some trouble but I am quite sure he doesn`t care at all.
BTW, I commented this video on YouTube and other hunters should do the same, IMHO.

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500Nitro
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: shakari]
      #119808 - 30/11/08 05:51 AM


I looked at it and was stunned.

Question for you "Lion" guys.

The Lion looked bewildered, unsure of whether to run or stay !!!

Had the lion just been tamed by feeding and getting used to people or what ?

Can you explain how a lion ends up behaving like that ?


I am still amazed that something like that is posted on the internet for all to see.


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shakari
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #119810 - 30/11/08 06:02 AM

He was doped up to his eyeballs. As Jean said, they just don't behave that that normally.

Take a look at his eyes, usually a Lion's eyes will blaze right through you........ that one didn't know if his arse was drilled or bored.

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500Nitro
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: shakari]
      #119811 - 30/11/08 06:11 AM


Thanks,

I had the word "drugged" in my original post but deleted.

The eyes were one thing I noticed, the other was the
"groginess" of the animal.


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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #119822 - 30/11/08 07:57 AM

that was one of the worst cases of penned up (possibly drugged up) animal killing that i have seen...effing disgusting

the pen must be next door to the "guides" house as you can hear the dog doing its stuff in the background.

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ozhunter
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: gryphon]
      #119839 - 30/11/08 11:57 AM

When I look back at at the video footage of the lion we have come across whilst hunting, none look that docile, that's for sure!
What a great stalk hey.
And RAS SAFARIS advertise their name on this junk.

Edited by ozhunter (30/11/08 12:01 PM)


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Bramble
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: ozhunter]
      #119845 - 30/11/08 01:54 PM

Does anybody know how to send that footage to whomever issues that PH's license ?

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500Nitro
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: Bramble]
      #119847 - 30/11/08 02:05 PM

Quote:

Does anybody know how to send that footage to whomever issues that PH's license ?





Just send a link to it via email but also download it
incase it gets deleted from youtube.


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Marrakai
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #119861 - 30/11/08 05:57 PM

How do you keep a copy of a down-loaded YouTube clip?

I've never been able to do this.

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500Nitro
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: Marrakai]
      #119862 - 30/11/08 06:18 PM


I don't know but I have been told it can be done.


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shakari
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #119866 - 30/11/08 07:13 PM

The company isn't registered as a member of PHASA and I can't find any mention of individual names on the company website, so it looks like they're probably not members of the association.

Also as you don't know where it was filmed and there's no proof that what was done was actually illegal (albeit immoral and unsportsmanlike) you probably couldn't bring a case anyway.

I find it astounding that the client permitted himself to be filmed taking part in such a disgracful act. - I guess he's probably out ther somewhere boasting to his friends how he faced down and killed a ferocious Lion in the jungles of Africa with nothing more that a bow and arrow.

Ah well, I guess some people just suffer from chronic assholism.

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Edited by shakari (01/12/08 04:10 AM)


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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: shakari]
      #119870 - 30/11/08 08:46 PM

Could it be that the guy shooting it knew it was an old cirkus lion and was told that it must be put down, and offered his service? And the guys with the camera took adwantage of it.

Well, i hope its that way, makes it easyer to sleep at night.

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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 450_366]
      #119872 - 30/11/08 09:30 PM



Where is the sportsmanship in hunting things that hunt back that don't actualy hunt back.


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shakari
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #119879 - 30/11/08 11:39 PM

450

I think that's highly unlikely..........

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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: shakari]
      #119883 - 01/12/08 12:08 AM

Quote:

Ah well, I guess some people just suffer from chronic assholism.




ROTFLMAO


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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: larcher]
      #119893 - 01/12/08 02:44 AM

Shameful footage.

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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: ]
      #119898 - 01/12/08 03:08 AM

I was unable to watch the whole thing due to our slow download situation here, but I really do wonder about the details...

1} Where did it actually take place?

2} What was the cost to the "hunter" {besides his dignity}?

3} What exactly was the setup? {...the zoo cage in between the chimpanzees and the lemurs and right down the lane from the muskox and the polar bear?}

4} What happened after the hunt; taxidermy, etc. Where does this "trophy" now reside?

All that stuff would be interesting to know.

As a sidelight question...

What ACTUALLY happens to old zoo critters whose ability to steal the show has waned? I've heard tell that many of these concocted "hunts" are the last encore performances of a sizeable number of previously-respected characters who have worn out their welcomes exciting tourists at Wild Safari Six Flags Great Adventure-TYPE outfits.

I mean, once the hook gets dragged across the stage where does Sumo the Dancing Bear go? His options appear to be somewhat limited...

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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #119926 - 01/12/08 10:17 AM

Absolutely pathetic...maanwhile back at the ranch..this jerkoff is bragging on his heroic experience on hunting lion...what a dickwad....

Agree with the other posts--have been within 100 yards or less of WILD lion probably half dozen times..they will NEVER allow stuff like that to happen...



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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: larcher]
      #119929 - 01/12/08 10:56 AM

Totally pathetic!

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shakari
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #119963 - 01/12/08 05:11 PM

I wonder if these bloody shit for brained idiots realise how much damage they do to the hunting industry and how much ammunition they give to the antis when they publish this kind of rubbish.

Where's the little wanker graemlin when you want it!

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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: shakari]
      #119965 - 01/12/08 06:04 PM

all I can see on this video are two assholes (PH + Hunter) and a heavily drugged slaughtered lion....

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Der_Jaeger
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Re: Canned lion, aware of better example???? [Re: escard]
      #119971 - 01/12/08 10:38 PM


Actually, what would be a justified recourse is for a "real" lion to have it's revenge some day when the playing field is even. What's the saying, "what goes around, comes around"?

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