Forums.NitroExpress.com

Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact NitroExpress.com: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges

*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***

You are not logged in. [Login]

Main Index · Search · Active Topics
New user · Who's Online · FAQ · Calendar

Double Rifles, Single Shots & Combinations >> Paradox and Bore Guns

Pages: 1

rigbymauser
.400 member

Reged: 15/05/05
Posts: 1970
Loc: Denmark

12 Bore John Dickson cartridges
#116623 - 10/10/08 11:07 PM

I found this full box here today..

I wonder if this should have any value to cartridges collectors...hahaha

Post Extras:

tinker
.416 member

Reged: 12/03/05
Posts: 4835
Loc: Nevada

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
#116636 - 11/10/08 03:54 AM

Interesting indeed.

Where did you find these?

Please show the inside of the packaging.
Also I'd like to see the headstamp.

This somehow looks too good.
The font types don't look proper to the mid-century period...

--Tinker

--------------------
--Self-Appointed Colonel, DRSS--

"It IS a dangerous game, and so named for a reason, and you can't play from the keyboard. " --Some Old Texan...

Post Extras:

rigbymauser
.400 member

Reged: 15/05/05
Posts: 1970
Loc: Denmark

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
#116640 - 11/10/08 04:38 AM

The inscription says "12" at the bottom.

Edited by rigbymauser (11/10/08 04:46 AM)

Post Extras:

tinker
.416 member

Reged: 12/03/05
Posts: 4835
Loc: Nevada

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
#116643 - 11/10/08 06:34 AM

Oh what an interesting find.
Just makes me wonder.

That's a 328 grain bullet for a 12b rifle over 4-5/8 Drams of powder.
Hot charge and light bullet.

12b pure lead roundball will weigh 583 grains (~1-1/4oz), and with bullet instead of roundball in the Victorian rifles, I've only seen heavier than roundball not lighter than roundball bullet weights.

How long are those cartridges?
Please will you describe the nature of the source of these cartridges?

--Tinker

--------------------
--Self-Appointed Colonel, DRSS--

"It IS a dangerous game, and so named for a reason, and you can't play from the keyboard. " --Some Old Texan...

Post Extras:

rigbymauser
.400 member

Reged: 15/05/05
Posts: 1970
Loc: Denmark

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: tinker]
#116646 - 11/10/08 07:19 AM

Quote:

Oh what an interesting find.
Just makes me wonder.

That's a 328 grain bullet for a 12b rifle over 4-5/8 Drams of powder.
Hot charge and light bullet.

12b pure lead roundball will weigh 583 grains (~1-1/4oz), and with bullet instead of roundball in the Victorian rifles, I've only seen heavier than roundball not lighter than roundball bullet weights.

How long are those cartridges?
Please will you describe the nature of the source of these cartridges?

--Tinker

Sure!.

COL 60.oo mm (unfolded)
Rimdia 21.oo mm
Dia neck 20.50mm
basedia 20.50mm
Pinprimer length. 10.75mm

I found these cartridges at a guncollector. I traded one of my new Manton & Co 10 bore for this package...

I haven`t seen such cartridges either before...only on forums maybe..hahaha
I could tempted to cut one open, but I guess these leadbullets are really hollowbased.

Post Extras:

tinker
.416 member

Reged: 12/03/05
Posts: 4835
Loc: Nevada

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
#116647 - 11/10/08 08:08 AM

When you decide to lay the razor blade into one of those cases, have your camera ready.

I'll be happy to see what's inside!

--Tinker

--------------------
--Self-Appointed Colonel, DRSS--

"It IS a dangerous game, and so named for a reason, and you can't play from the keyboard. " --Some Old Texan...

Post Extras:

Sarg
.400 member

Reged: 20/01/07
Posts: 1365
Loc: Nil

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: tinker]
#116648 - 11/10/08 08:29 AM

Would these not be a modern reproducion of some type ?

Post Extras:

rigbymauser
.400 member

Reged: 15/05/05
Posts: 1970
Loc: Denmark

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: Sarg]
#116716 - 12/10/08 07:59 AM

Quote:

Would these not be a modern reproducion of some type ?

Somehow...I believe you have a point there. But who made them??.

But regardless year of manufacturing...they are still funny

Post Extras:

Sarg
.400 member

Reged: 20/01/07
Posts: 1365
Loc: Nil

Re: 12 Bore John Dickson cartridges [Re: rigbymauser]
#116725 - 12/10/08 10:38 AM

Oh !

Sorry I don,t mean to denigrate them ! very cool either way & a great find !

Post Extras:

Pages: 1

Extra information

0 registered and 20 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator: tinker

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 3133

Jump to

NitroExpress.com

Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact