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470evans
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12 ga sizing dies
      #111330 - 08/08/08 01:05 PM

Anyone know where to get dies to size .740 cast paradox bullets down to .734 -.736?

Thanks

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rigbymauser
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Re: 12 ga sizing dies [Re: 470evans]
      #111336 - 08/08/08 02:41 PM

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Anyone know where to get dies to size .740 cast paradox bullets down to .734 -.736?

Thanks



You may just have to go to a local workshop and have a simple tube made, where you can punch them dowm with a rod that are just a little smaller a la .720cal.

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Re: 12 ga sizing dies [Re: rigbymauser]
      #111337 - 08/08/08 03:22 PM

It's easy to make one out of a 7/8"X14 bolt.
e-mail me if you need help
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Re: 12 ga sizing dies [Re: szihn]
      #111342 - 08/08/08 08:48 PM

That's what I was gonna say, except I was gonna add that if he didn't want to or couldn't do it, I would do it for him.

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sbs470
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Re: 12 ga sizing dies [Re: CowboyCS]
      #111345 - 08/08/08 09:14 PM

I have made several out of grade 8 bolts as szihan has suggested in different sizes .They work fine.

good shooting
sbs470

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Re: 12 ga sizing dies [Re: sbs470]
      #111346 - 08/08/08 10:03 PM

.875" minus .735", minus thread depth x 2= makes for some damn thin walls....you may look into using an over size die.....ask me how I know....I too have a 12 bore paradox. It is a special made Item as far as I know. I turned mine.
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sbs470
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Re: 12 ga sizing dies [Re: bouldersmith]
      #111409 - 09/08/08 09:53 PM

I have four of the bolts which I bored out then had them honed by a guy to my final sizes..732,730,729 and 728. I turned the push ram at .725.By using a grade 8 or CAT bolt wall thickness is not a problem and when screwed into a RCBS Big Max press the walls are well suported.Lets remeber that we are swaging lead.I machine a lead into the bolt head so the bullet centres in the die.
The reason I have had to go through this exercise of swaging bullets is that I don't own a paradox.I have a A.Hollis with invisable rifling or Lancasters patent oval bore.I have had to do a lot of swaging ,load development and casting of various lead tin ratios to get the rifle shooting,not to mention wads.powder and bullet lubes.Without a large lube cookie the barrels lead up quickly and the invisible becomes very visible I cast two bullets both are CBE moulds.one is a traditional Fosbery bullet and the other is a bluff nose ,both are hollowpoint and weigh 750 gr subject to lead tin mix and measure 735 & 734

good shooting
sbs470

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