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Cinghiale
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"NEW" FN Model 70's???
      #111408 - 09/08/08 09:50 PM

As I live in the North of Australia I have only read about the new Model 70 produced in the FNH plant down in South Carolina.

Have any of you guys seen the new rifles? How are they? Is the production rifle really better than what came out of New Haven at the end of the USRAC days??

Thanks in advance.

Stay safe,

MOG

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Ripp
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Re: "NEW" FN Model 70's??? [Re: Cinghiale]
      #111423 - 10/08/08 02:19 AM

I have seen one--it was a proto-type of sorts..and yes, it seemed better all around than the last days of the old Winchesters...

Supposedly they are hitting stores as we speak...everything I have read thus far has been positive..but, not so sure I put a lot of stock in what is printed in most magazines...

One downfall is, from what I have read, the largest caliber available will be in a .325 or 8mm..no 375 or larger available at this time..bummer...

Ripp

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Re: "NEW" FN Model 70's??? [Re: Ripp]
      #111427 - 10/08/08 02:31 AM


Yes, they shit all over the last one's that came out.

They felt nice and looked well made.

However these were the one's at the Shot Show so I would assume they would have made sure they looked good.


Interesting no 375H&H or Ruger. Maybe going for the volume one's first ?

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Ripp
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Re: "NEW" FN Model 70's??? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #111439 - 10/08/08 06:30 AM

I would assume--they will fill the market with the usual 270, 30-06 and 300's --I am really holding out for them to come out with a .375 or larger--heard Ruger is coming out with a .416 soon...with all the bigger stuff Hornady and Ruger are doing as of late..one would think they would maybe follow a bit as well...have to wait and see I guess...probably have a good idea at the SCI show this coming winter...

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Cinghiale
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Re: "NEW" FN Model 70's??? [Re: Ripp]
      #111478 - 10/08/08 06:00 PM

Sounds good,

I hope they bring out the left hand guns soon but I think judging by last time the 375 will be out first which I know will get you boys going!!!

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hoppdoc
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Re: "NEW" FN Model 70's??? [Re: Cinghiale]
      #111489 - 10/08/08 06:58 PM

Rumor is FN will have a higher quality more accurate gun than the previous Winchesters at a higher price-$1100 to $1200--

Supposedly a big push by FN was made to increase their accuracy.Propaganda or truth? Read the supposed comments below of an industry insider regarding the old vs new guns.Time will tell--

"Initially, the old SC plant was a subcontractor. They were doing shoddy work and Winchester sent inspectors in to try and clean up the situation to no avail.......Rumor has it from some pretty reliable sources that money was getting squandered and the work wasn't improving. FN/Winchester bought them out and tried reviving the situation as best as they could, but the quality was still not there, mainly due to bad setups, tooling and machinery.
FN Manufacturing, with the help of a few individuals closed that plant and used it for storage for the most part. Some of the equipment that was left from New Haven is there, as well as the existing stuff, but mainly it's a warehouse of stocks and old inventory. The best of the lot is what will and has made it's way to the new facility in Columbia.

Being a long-time supplier for Winchester, I can assure you that it is not a business-as-usual situation with FN taking over. If the parts are not in tolerance, they simply don't go on a rifle. I've yet to see a single model 70 in my life that was made to print.........and that goes for pre-64's as well. The new ones will be, or they won't be sold.
The model 70 design has got a bad rap, simply because the design was never executed properly. Either they weren't willing to pay a vendor to make it right or they just didn't know how to run mics, but the simple truth is.......none were made to print.

If FN holds their other vendors, as well as themselves to the stringent requirements that we've been upholding, you as consumers will finally get to see what a model 70 looks like that was made as well as it was designed. So far, I've seen nothing that would indicate it won't happen."
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Matt Williams V.P.,Williams Firearms Company Inc.

Seems like alot of talk but results?? I haven't seen one yet so will defer to those who have seen the "new" gun.

Edited by hoppdoc (10/08/08 07:10 PM)

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