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beleg2
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Show your groups.
#108880 - 04/07/08 01:47 AM

How about posting pictures of groups with double rifles?
Good groups, bad groups, etc.

Four shots each, RL+RL at 50 meters.

Thanks
Martin

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: beleg2]
#108885 - 04/07/08 02:34 AM

Martin-

Each of my forum posts shows two targets I've shot with a couple of my double rifles.

The image in my signature line is of my J&W Tolley 450 magnum express double rifle, two live rounds, and the two fired pieces of brass from when I finally got it 'shooting'

If you right click on my ID avitar image then click 'view image', you will see an enlarged view of that avitar.
That's a photo of one of my sixteen bore double rifles, it's first day out shooting in likely well over 100 years.

Those two hits on the lower left of the target backer were 'a quick pair', the first two shots from the rifle that day.
I took aim below the paper target at that area, nailed the front trigger, quickly regained my POA then the rear trigger, broke the gun open and removed the brass.

That was a relatively glorious moment, as I'd had to go through a fair bit of work to get to that point - casting chambers, making brass, researching appropriate loads, developing wads - components - loading tools...

The shots rang at about 7:00AM, there was a low blanket of thin fog over the old dry lake/shooting range at the ranch.
I got up to walk down to the target backer for a look, cracked a grin, and broke into a low laughter as I walked back to the bench for a few more rounds.

There was a 20-30 yard long, ten to fifteen foot high and wide billow of blackpowder smoke slowly curling into itself as it rose above the thin layer of fog.

That was a good day.

--Tinker

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Marrakai
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: tinker]
#108926 - 04/07/08 04:03 PM

"Right and Left" on point of shoulder from .577 x 2 3/4 Greener Light Nitro. Distance to bull: maybe 20 yds!

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Marrakai]
#108929 - 04/07/08 04:33 PM

Quote:

"Right and Left" on point of shoulder from .577 x 2 3/4 Greener Light Nitro. Distance to bull: maybe 20 yds!

Smart arse.

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: NitroX]
#108933 - 04/07/08 05:08 PM

Better a smart ass than a dumb ass!

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: tinker]
#108935 - 04/07/08 05:17 PM

Merkel 9,3x74R open sights at 60m 2xR-L:

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beleg2
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: 93mouse]
#108950 - 04/07/08 09:41 PM

Thanks to all!

Marrakai,
I love your group and also the "target".LOL

Martin

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peter
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: beleg2]
#108952 - 04/07/08 09:55 PM

12 gauge breeneke slugs

9,3x74 16 grams/250 grains

9,3x74 18,5 grams/286 grains

i would love to do like marrakai, but i only need to shoot the animals ONCE...

cheers

peter

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tinker
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: peter]
#108974 - 05/07/08 01:55 AM

Quote:

i would love to do like marrakai, but i only need to shoot the animals ONCE

Looks like Marrakai needs to work on his technique!

--Tinker

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: tinker]
#108975 - 05/07/08 02:39 AM

Twp right and two left shoots at 50 meters with my 9,3x74R Merkel, Sologne GPA 250 grains bullet.

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: herrdoktor]
#108976 - 05/07/08 03:00 AM

Great Posts! I want in on this one.
Guess I need to get to the range, or better, hit the bush and come back with meat and a "group" on the "target"! Guess that is what finally counts. If it is only a one shot "group", The next barrel may be in the same place on a different quary the next hunt!

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: herrdoktor]
#108977 - 05/07/08 03:01 AM

Doctor-

Nice looking 9.3 rifle!
Great looking performance.

Is the small gold dot on the sideplate a cocking indicator?

--Tinker

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gatsby
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: beleg2]
#108987 - 05/07/08 04:11 AM

Two fouling shots then a rl/rl standing at 50yds 8 drams blk 950gr 10 bore paradox

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Marrakai
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: gatsby]
#109006 - 05/07/08 09:27 AM

Quote:

Looks like Marrakai needs to work on his technique!

Very true... I was definitely out-smartarsed by peter!

Quote:

i only need to shoot the animals ONCE...

OK, so here's a couple of targets I've posted before:

Best of three 50-yard groups I shot with a Wilkes-made Manton .470 during my first 'regulating' session immediately after purchase:

Third 50-yard group shot with Scott-made Rodda .577/.500 No.2 during pre-purchase test-shoot:

Group made with the Rodda following bore-scrub:

Note that these are 2 touching pairs of right-and-left. The first pair from the newly-cleaned barrels went lower than the second and subsequent pairs.
Slight crossing evident, which was cured by crimping.

Here's the winning target in the 2005 Australian National Double Rifle Championship (despite the flyer!), made with my Jeffery .450/.400:

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Antlers
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Marrakai]
#109022 - 05/07/08 01:15 PM

Here's the winning target in the 2005 Australian National Double Rifle Championship (despite the flyer!), made with my Jeffery .450/.400:

Marrakai, how about providing the details about this target, i.e. distance, shooting position, etc.

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Heym 450/400 3"

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Antlers]
#109108 - 06/07/08 06:21 PM

My 12 bore Webley & Scott with some S&B Brenneke and Winchester slugs at 20 meters. My first ever attempt to shoot slugs (off hand). I hope to install rifle sights & practice with slugs until I can buy a double rifle. The gun is old but tight. It has been refinished with little of the maker's label visible. Some smart guy back bored it & opened the chokes to use with steel as it became mandatory in NZ two years ago! The gun kicks too much with the WW 2.75 inch slugs but feels great with the S&B 2.5s. I have now got 100 round balls which I will load up by replacing either target or game loads in 2.5 cases.

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Marrakai
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Nakihunter]
#109249 - 08/07/08 01:49 PM

Quote:

Marrakai, how about providing the details about this target, i.e. distance, shooting position, etc.

Antlers:
The rules for Big Game Rifle competition in Australia are here on the forums. Try this link:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=16543

Eight of the 10 shots are against the clock. The rules are as follows:

Double Rifle
Any centerfire double rifle of minimum calibre .228.

Course of fire (National Events): 10 shots

Range......Number of Shots....Position....Timing

50 yds.............2..............Off-hand....Up to 5 minutes

50 yds.............4..............Off-hand....In 16 seconds

25 yds.............4..............Off-hand....In 16 seconds

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Marrakai
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Marrakai]
#109262 - 08/07/08 06:39 PM

Merkel 9,3x74R - different velocities and weights (60m open sights)

open sights at 100m - upper 232 Oryx going 2560 lower 293 TUG's going 2300 (lucky one)

Same load (GS FN 265) with different OAL open sights at 60 m:

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: beleg2]
#109264 - 08/07/08 08:03 PM

Great topic:

9.3x74r loads that Captain Curl helped me with

286 Woodlieghs, and 63.5grs of 4350.

1-1/2" (4.5mm) at 100 (91m) with 4 shots!

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beleg2
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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Chasseur]
#109266 - 08/07/08 09:02 PM

Thank you all!!!

I love to see how good doubles can shot!!!
Antonio,
what a lovelly rifle!

Martin

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: beleg2]
#111757 - 13/08/08 08:39 PM

Steinkamp SW1 Serial number 002, 8x57 IRS, Aimpoint micro, distance 100m, Sellier&Bellot with Sierra Gameking

[image]http://freenetfoto.de/userwebsite;jsessionid=1wl55g3atxcps.freenetapp22?act=15&pos=6[/image]

[image]http://freenetfoto.de/userwebsite;jsessionid=1wl55g3atxcps.freenetapp22?act=15&pos=7[/image]

(I hope someone can help me with the pictures if the links again doesn´t work.)

The rifle is crossing around 30mm at 100m so it should be hole in hole at 50m.

Shot two hours ago.

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Edited by Dipling (19/08/08 02:30 PM)

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: Dipling]
#111907 - 16/08/08 12:27 AM

Very nice shooting and all of it is offhand. These doubles should be capable of superb accuracy off a rest despite what some people would have you believe . . .

Joerg,

I checked at the links and found that I would need a password to log in to view the pictures. If you e-mail them to me at kamdarmehul (at) gmail (dot) com I would gladly post them for you. Normally, the best sites for this are www.photobucket.com and www.hunt101.com Both are free to register on and most of our members use them.

Weidmann's Heil!

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: mehulkamdar]
#111915 - 16/08/08 02:01 AM

My merkel 45-70.

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: beleg2]
#112122 - 20/08/08 12:18 AM

Posting two groups for Joerg of Steinkamp:

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Re: Show your groups. [Re: mehulkamdar]
#141756 - 08/09/09 10:10 PM

Hello all.

Here is the final 50 yard regulating target for a complete new set of barrels in 500NE I made for one of my customers.

Alex

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