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Bear mauls five people in India
      #103945 - 01/05/08 01:18 AM

Bear mauls five people in India


A bear jumped on a group of people passing through a cashew plantation in eastern India, killing five and injuring several, police said.

Police later shot the bear dead after the incident late on Tuesday in Orissa state, Gyana Ranjan Dash, a senior government official said.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: NitroX]
      #103946 - 01/05/08 02:30 AM

I guess it wasn't a Disney bear.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: DarylS]
      #104002 - 01/05/08 03:29 PM

For some strange reason such attacks by the Indian Sloth Bear are not rare in Bihar & Orissa states. The same species is also found in the rest of the country except the high Himalayas or desert regions, but you do not hear of such attacks. The sloth bear is a typical omnivore which prefers to dig for bugs, termites, roots etc. Yutube clips show a bear chasing away a young tiger. Large tigers are known to kill & eat sloth bear (claws found in feces). Two years ago I was charged by a mother with cub at about 25 meters but it was a mock charge to get the cub out of the way. The wildlife dept. guard yelled & screamed at it & it just ran away.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: Nakihunter]
      #104039 - 02/05/08 12:41 AM

One must respect bears, especially bears with cubs, bears eating or bears sleeping.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: DarylS]
      #104046 - 02/05/08 02:45 AM

In one of the tiger parks I visited the guide was more concerned about bears than tigers. He thought it was not appropriate that women from a camp in the park, had to walk unescorted on the roads and paths because of the risk of bears.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: NitroX]
      #104068 - 02/05/08 08:51 AM

At times, women are particularly at risk, not only there, but here. It is at that 'special' time of the month when women are normally targeted by bears, blacks and grizzlies in our parks while camping or in the bush when working a forest service job.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: DarylS]
      #104093 - 02/05/08 01:58 PM

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I guess it wasn't a Disney bear.




I guess that's BEARing one's sole....

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: NitroX]
      #104172 - 04/05/08 12:43 AM

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In one of the tiger parks I visited the guide was more concerned about bears than tigers. He thought it was not appropriate that women from a camp in the park, had to walk unescorted on the roads and paths because of the risk of bears.




John,

Sloth bears get drunk sometimes when they raid illegal stills and they can then be more dangerous than tigers. Unlike the North American bears, the Indian varieties, both sloth and the Himalayan bear are aggressive.

I am not at all surprised that the bear in question mauled five people. It must have gotten drunk at an illegal still somewhere.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #104200 - 04/05/08 07:45 AM

Mehul
Thank you for that info , are there more illegill stills in Orissa & Bihar States ?

(Big drinkers )


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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #104216 - 04/05/08 10:42 AM

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Sloth bears get drunk sometimes when they raid illegal stills and they can then be more dangerous than tigers.

I am not at all surprised that the bear in question mauled five people. It must have gotten drunk at an illegal still somewhere.




OK, so the Sikhs are safe. In Punjab, the sloth bears must be compliant.

But those Christians, good heavens...when strolling about in the backcountry of Nagaland, look out!!

Seriously, Mehul, that is absolutely fascinating, and I wonder if that WAS the situation in this case. I have heard of Black Bear getting tipsy on old berries, but have never heard of an attack as a result.

My brother claims he saw a bunch of ducks get bombed off a rotten raspberry bush in his back yard. He insists it is true.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: Sarg]
      #104219 - 04/05/08 11:29 AM

Sarg,

There are illegal stills all over the country. The poor make their own liquor because it is cheaper and Indians have a long history of not abiding by rules that require the payment of taxes.

Some tribes living in remote areas also make their own liquor for rituals and that would happen in Orissa. Bihar is a madhouse and one of the most unruly parts of India. Many Indians keep wishing that it would drop off the Indian map somehow.

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      #104220 - 04/05/08 11:34 AM

9ThreeXFifty7,

Sikhs are big drinkers. They would be in as much danger as the Naga people.

It isn't only bears that raid illegal stills, though. Elephants also do this and then the consequences are vastly more devastating as you could imagine. I don't recall the name of the documentary in question but the NAtional Geographic Channel did a very good one on the subject and they actually filmed an elephant raid on a village after a herd of elephants (some thirty of them) got drunk and decided they didn't want any pesky Indian people about.

There are weird things that happen in that part of the world, no doubt. I also think that if American bears could get their paws on stills here, they might develop a taste for firewater and become as dangerous. Theya re much bigger than the sloth and the Himalayan bears in any case, and the potential for danger is greater.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #104224 - 04/05/08 12:00 PM

I wonder what is best for fending off a bear, the Sikh kirpan or the Naga dao??

I really enjoy this site for the fascinating stuff that gets posted about the wild-and-wooly parts of the world!

Nitro, thanks for posting and Mehul, thanks for the very interesting info!

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      #104236 - 04/05/08 04:24 PM

Mehul - thanfully around here, they only have a taste for pepper spray & tiny bells that antigun hikers wear.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #104243 - 04/05/08 07:46 PM

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Unlike the North American bears, the Indian varieties, both sloth and the Himalayan bear are aggressive.




I did not know that. I thought the Indian bear species were quite passive, so now I know what to do if encountering one in the forest one day!

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I am not at all surprised that the bear in question mauled five people. It must have gotten drunk at an illegal still somewhere.




Booze and Bears does not mix.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: NitroX]
      #104317 - 05/05/08 04:15 PM

The Himalayan Black Bear is a real nasty. Near broad leaf forests & higher meddows these bears attack herders in the spring. They are known to kill ponies & other livestock. They are not as big as the Grizzly but more like an average to large black bear.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: Nakihunter]
      #104421 - 07/05/08 06:11 AM

I have read a number of times that the sloth bear does not have the hearing normally associated with bears. I have read also that the sloth bears are "intense" animals, much as are badgers, wolverines, etc. and become highly focused in their daily food gathering activities, such as opening bee-hives and termite lodgings. Together, these traits render the sloth bears prime candidates for surprise encounters and especially so in areas of denser forest and undergrowth. People and sloth bears, unknowingly get themselves in the same space and bears the world over are bad news when startled. I have an old Frank Buck movie, filmed in Malaya back in the 1930's. In his narrative, he says similar:
"Sloth bears, come upon in the jungle, are easily startled and the locals fear them more than tigers. Those long claws make quick work of any man." "Walk through any village here and you'll see the mangled faces of the survivors of savage encounters with the sloth bear"


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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: Nickudu]
      #104472 - 07/05/08 10:45 PM

Order: Carnivora
Family: Ursidae
Genus and Species: Melursus ursinus

Disheveled in appearance, the sloth bear leads a reclusive life in India's forests, noisily seeking out insects and fruits.

Physical Description: Sloth bears have shaggy, dusty-black coats, pale, short-haired muzzles, and long, curved claws that they use to excavate ants and termites. A cream-colored "V" or "Y" usually marks their chests. Sloth bears' nostrils can close, protecting the animals from dust or insects when raiding termite nests or bee hives. A gap in their teeth enables them to suck up ants, termites, and other insects.

Size: Sloth bears grow five to six feet long, stand two to three feet high at the shoulder, and weigh from 120 (in lighter females) to 310 pounds (in heavy males).

Geographic Distribution: Most sloth bears live in India and Sri Lanka; others live in southern Nepal, and they have been reported in Bhutan and Bangladesh.

Status: The sloth bear is listed as vulnerable on the World Conservation Union's Red List of Threatened Animals.

Habitat: Sloth bears live in a variety of dry and wet forests, and also in some grasslands, where boulders and scattered shrubs and trees provide shelter.

Natural Diet: When trees are in fruit, usually during the monsoon season, sloth bears dine on mango, fig, ebony, and other fruits, and also on some flowers. However, ants and termites, dug out of their cement-hard nest mounds, are a year-round staple. Also, sloth bears climb trees and knock down honeycombs, later collecting the sweet bounty on the forest floor. Beetles, grubs, ants, and other insects round out their diet. During food shortages, sloth bears will eat carrion. They sometimes raid farm crops.

Zoo Diet: The Zoo's sloth bears eat insects, mealworms, and crickets, as well as such fruits as pears, melons, oranges, and grapes.

Reproduction: Sloth bears mate during the hot season—May, June, and July—and females usually give birth to two cubs six to seven months later. Cubs are born in an underground den, and stay there for several months. After emerging from the den, cubs stay at their mother's side for two to three years before heading off on their own.

Life Span: It is unknown how long sloth bears live in the wild. But these bears have lived up to 40 years in zoos.

Behavior: Active mostly at night, the sloth bear is a noisy, busy bear. It grunts and snorts as it pulls down branches to get fruit, digs for termites, or snuffles under debris for grubs and beetles. A sloth bear uses its lips like a vacuum, making rapid, loud "kerfump" noises as it sucks insects from their nests.

Sloth bears lead solitary lives, and most are nocturnal. (In protected areas, they may be active during the day.) If threatened, these smallish bears will stand on two legs, brandishing their clawed forepaws as weapons.

A Few Sloth Bear Neighbors:

Bengal tiger (Panthera tigris tigris): At the top of the forest food chain, this mighty, endangered cat slinks through the shadows in search of spotted deer and other prey, which sometimes includes sloth bears.

Gaur (Bos frontalis): A massive, forest-dwelling wild ox that lives in small herds and feeds in clearings at night.

Lion-tailed macaque (Macaca silenus): An endangered, black-coated monkey with a distinctive gray mane and dangling tail. Troops of 12 to 20 inhabit tropical evergreen forests in India's Western Ghats mountains.

Great pied hornbill (Buceros bicornis): A vulture-sized black, white, and cream-colored fruit-eating bird with a massive, toucan-like bill.

Fun Facts:

Sloth bears are the only bears to carry young on their backs.

In the late 1700s, the first Europeans to see sloth bears described them as bear-like sloths due to their ungainly appearance and long claws.

The Hindi word for bear—bhalu—inspired the name of Rudyard Kipling's bear character Baloo in The Jungle Book.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: iqbal]
      #104790 - 12/05/08 04:19 AM

Gentlemen,

Thanks for the interesting information.

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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: Nakihunter]
      #145141 - 04/11/09 10:03 AM

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The Himalayan Black Bear is a real nasty. Near broad leaf forests & higher meddows these bears attack herders in the spring. They are known to kill ponies & other livestock. They are not as big as the Grizzly but more like an average to large black bear.




Sometimes, people hunt bears. Other times, bears hunt people.

Encounters between militants and security forces are a common feature in Jammu and Kashmir, but this encounter, which resulted in death of two militant commanders, is perhaps the most “unusual”. In a first of the kind, two top Hizbul Mujahideen commanders have been killed in an encounter with wild bear in Shopian district of the South Kashmir.

According to the Srinagar based Defence spokesman, Col JS Brar, troops of the Shopian based 9 Rashtriya Rifles recovered two dead bodies from a cave hideout in Dandaloo Nar area of Shopian. On closer scrutiny, troops found that both of the dead men were armed with AK-47 rifles and rug sacks.

Col Brar added that “Both bodies were mauled badly by some wild animal, and apparently by a bear, as the area is inhabited by Himalayan Black bear.”

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Bear-kills-two-top-Hizb-militants-in-Kashmir/H1-Article1-472118.aspx


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Re: Bear mauls five people in India [Re: Story]
      #157621 - 27/03/10 12:43 PM

Jim Corbett wrote of the aggressiveness of the Himalayan black bear.........Harold

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