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But is hydrostatic shock something to be considered or is it a myth?

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I've never shot a tiger.

However, when shooting an aquaeous medium, hydraulic effect can be easily observed as I have done on many occaisions in testing bullets in my media.

That does not mean that a cartridge that produces the most dramatic effect on water-based media is going to necessarily produce the best killing or stopping results on any given animal. Penetration and the ability of the bullet to break bone, etc must be adequate as well.

The best way I know to "draw the picture" for you is to contrast the hydraulic effect of round-nose sixgun bullets {.e.g 700-1200 fps} with high velocity rifle rounds {by that I mean .e.g .30-06, etc}. Many sixgun bullets will penetrate an identical depth to the high velocity rounds in ballistic media. However, when shooting water, for example, the effect of the strike is very much different between the two types of rounds. Where a sixgun bullet may penetrate, the effect on the media is much less than with the "rifle" rounds. It is easily observable and it is dramatic.

It is much more difficult to compare the effect of rifle rounds that are closer in velocity to each other than the extremes represented by the round nose sixgun bullet and the rifle round. Just exactly where the effect of "hydraulic shock" or whatever you want to call it occurs is difficult to say. Military testing and combat experience indicates that the shift from "heavy, slow" round nose military bullets in the 2000 fps range to "light, fast" spitzers of 2400 + fps {after the introduction of the German 154 grain "S" bullet at 2800 fps c. 1905} brought with it a dramatic increase in traumatic hydraulic effect.

There, clear as mud!!

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While I have never shot a Tiger, I have shot a Lion.

If I had the "JOB" of killing every Tiger and Lion on the Planet, I would use my 450/400 3 1/4" double rifle [with scope in claw mounts] with 400 Woodleigh Softs.

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I spoke to a friend today and learned about a mint 45-90 levergun in India in its original case, retailed by a name that's long been forgotten, P Orr and Sons of Madras and Rangoon, which was, most certainly used on tigers considering the family who own it. When I was a boy and beginning to get interested in guns, I would go to P Orr and Sons showroom to peek through the cabinets, tolerated with some amusement by the staff there. Good hunting, everyone.

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I have once here in denmark come across a 1886 Winchester with express-sights and half magazine. The caliber was .50ex(50-110WCF). I believe the man still has it. That gun had a "Madras" adress inscription on the barrel.
If today I should use a levergun for tiger-sport...a fullpower smokelessload of the 50-110 wcf would be used.

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Rigbymauser,

Just out of curiosity, would you remember which Madras company was inscribed on the barrel? And, of course, this is in my pester for pictures mode would you please ask your friend who owns the rifles to post pictures here?

There were three armouries in Madras in the old days as far as I know, P Orr and Sons were the biggest, there was an Indian owned business, Hindustan Armoury (which is still functioning in a nondescript location in Anna Pillai Street) and there was a Police Armoury in Saidapet near the old Armenian settlement which sold guns (and still does) for the personal use of police personnel and civil servants.

If only that rifle could talk, it would tell of a magnificent journey from the US via Britain to India and thence to Denmark...

Good hunting!

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