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Crazyquik
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Explain Roo Shooting to me
      #8862 - 12/02/04 02:48 PM

Well, first off, explain roos to me. What do they eat, do they live in herds? Do you hunt them, or shoot them like varmits? Is there a season on them? Are they shot because they're detrimental to farms, or just out of recreation. Do they live all over the country (except the deserts) or only in the eastern/southern/west/north areas?

I hear ya'll talking about roo shooting all the time, but dont know anything about it. Do you sell the pelts? Do people eat them? Where do you aim from the side? What are good roo guns? Would a .223 work? How much do they usually weigh?


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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: Crazyquik]
      #8863 - 12/02/04 02:58 PM

First fact:

At the beginning of 2002 there were 63 million of them, the most ever recorded (estimated) and the most that have ever existed ie there are wells, bores, tanks, drains, and dams of water where it used to be dry for 11 months of the year. The roos have benefited from this.

The drought of 2002 did knock them about a lot but like much Australian fauna they recover their populations in a season or two.



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Crazyquik
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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: NitroX]
      #8864 - 12/02/04 03:02 PM

I just now noticed (and read) the thread further down this page about recreational permits for roo shooting.

Do people still shoot them for a living?


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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: NitroX]
      #8872 - 12/02/04 05:20 PM

NitroX I've got high hopes of shooting some myself. A friend of mine has invited me down to try it out. He lives in Merriwa NSW. Hopefully within the next few months. We figure on the gals shopping and doing their gal things, him and I are going to camp and shoot roos. Wanted to take the ole Sharps, but figured it wouldn't be worth the hassle these days. Unless someone could clue me in on all the rules and regulations on getting one from here to there.

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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: NitroX]
      #8875 - 12/02/04 05:59 PM

...i guess that's why 'roo-burgers' are so popular in sea...

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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: ThomasEdwards]
      #8878 - 12/02/04 06:53 PM

Crazyquik,
Where I live we just apply to the New South Wales National Parks and Wildlife Service for culling tags when roo numbers are getting high. They come out and have a look,if they count 100 you might get 10 tags .To start we use spot lights, but after you have given them a hammering it can be quite a challange to stalk one in daylight.
Mainly use 223,some times 17rem for head shots closer in when we are fox shooting,and 6.5x55 for real long shots.


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Bakes
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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: Crazyquik]
      #8879 - 12/02/04 07:05 PM

They eat grass, a herd is called a mob, the most effective way to shoot them is spotlighting, they are challenging when stalked however. Only Queensland offers rec shooting I believe. They live all over the place, but will move to where the water and feed is. They are very lightly built from the chest up. Any .22 centerfire will do, as with a spotlight they'll stand and look at the light. Then you aim for the head.

Check this link out.

Roo's


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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: Bakes]
      #8881 - 12/02/04 11:48 PM

There are a number of different species of kangaroo and a couple of smaller species.

Broadly there are kangaroos, the main species being the largest "Red" kangaroos, and then the "Greys" the Eastern and the Western Grey Kangaroos.
The Reds mainly live in the deserts and plains while the Greys live in the more settled areas and in the hills.

Smaller in size than a kangaroo are the Euros or Wallaroos.

Again smaller are Wallabies which can be very small to approaching a Euro in size.

The desert roos can sense rain falling many kilometres away and travel to where the new grasses are growing.

There are shotgun drives of Wallabies in Tasmania.

Shooting roos is done under permit and maybe 4 million to 6.5 million permits are issued each year depending on the populaton numbers estimated. The kill is probably only half the quota though. In addition to the legal quota, probably just as many are shot illegally. Combined the kill numbers are less than 10% of the population.

Permits are of two main types. Destruction permits where the farmer or his agent can shoot kangaroos but can not remove them from the property. If he lives on the property he may feeds his dogs with some. The second type is harvesting roos for pet food processors, skins and human food consumption. There are sporting permits in Queensland but no one seems to know anything about them so I guess they are not easy to get ???

Roo is a game meat and very red in colour, lean and low in fat and has a nice gamey taste.

Roos are in no way endangered and can live close to humans. I sometimes see them within a kilometre of my farm (vineyards). You won't see them in settled regions that much but they will be there. You will see lost of them dead as road kill on outback highways. It has been estimated that there are many more roos in Australia than before white man arrived due to the increased availability of water in the bush and desert supplied for domestic stock such as cattle and sheep. When hunting say goats or pigs you usually see more roos than cattle, sheep, feral goats AND pigs combined.

Some wallabies are endangered due to habitat competition eg feral goats amd predation from foxes, cats, dogs etc.

Roos are pretty easy to hunt if they are not molested however when we had the NitroExpress.com Big Bore Boar Hunt last year the roos were very flightly and would have only offered shots in excess of 350 metres in most cases if we weren't hunting pigs. Often well in excess of that. Usually they were away at distances much further. Spotlighting would be more successful where they usually stand in the light for a while.

The .22/250 is probably the best roo rifle and the .243 with light bullets also very good. A .22 Mag will drop then well too at lesser ranges. The difficulty is hitting them in the brain as a lung or heart shot may damage the skin.

I can't remember how fast a "Big Boomer" or large Red can hop but at least 50 to 60 kms a hour (ie we have driven beside them at this speed).

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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: NitroX]
      #8889 - 13/02/04 01:56 AM

Here is a picture of a 'Roo Hunter' with a proper 'Roo rifle' in a proper 'Roo Caliber'. A 470 Gibbs, 75 yards in the spotlight. Notice the blood on the side of the picture where it was hit and where it landed.




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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: mickey]
      #8929 - 13/02/04 10:02 AM

I guess that and pigs would be great practice for the African hunt. Only thing I can think of is to try to draw a bead on roos when they are in between hops, eh?

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416SW
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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: Crazyquik]
      #8948 - 13/02/04 02:00 PM

You guys are boring the perfect chance to bullshit a yank about roos and you let it slip.

roo industry

Crazyquik and Bakes my friend who went to Darwin to live in 1999 when he got there was able to get a permit to hunt I think it was "common wallaby" on public land.

Laws on roos are different in each state, NSW they are harvested commercially, where as in VIC the can only be shot under a cull permit and only the permit holder (not his/her agents) is allowed to remove the skin from the property the rest of the animal must stay on the property.
The skin must be stamped by DNRE (or whatever they are called this week) and is not allowed to be sold.


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Crazyquik
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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: 416SW]
      #8949 - 13/02/04 02:05 PM

I want a fully mounted roo trophy in my living room

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Bakes
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Re: Explain Roo Shooting to me [Re: 416SW]
      #8960 - 13/02/04 03:09 PM

416SW
NT parks has stopped the hunting of the agile wallaby. Although they turn a blind eye at times. In fact a couple of rangers got in the shit for shooting wallabys and using them to bait croc traps


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