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Indian Lions Dying
      #87524 - 21/10/07 10:35 PM



This picture taken in 2003 shows "Kesheri" an Asiatic Lion, in front of the entrance...



Indian Wildlife Park Loses 32 Rare Asiatic Lions
Fri Oct 19, 1:39 PM ET



A total of 32 rare lions have died at a national park this year, the Wildlife Protection Society of India said Friday.

The society said five lions had recently been electrocuted, adding to a long list of deaths this year at Gir National Park in western Gujarat state.

"The Asiatic lion is one of the most critically endangered species on this planet and this added twist of so many lions being killed by electrocution... is a catastrophe", said Belinda Wright, the society's executive director.

"Preliminary information suggests that the three lionesses and two cubs were electrocuted by a crop protection fence put up by a farmer near Dhari, Amreli district, in an area adjoining Gir National Park," she said in a statement.

"This new tragedy brings the number of Gir lions that have died this year to a staggering total of 32 lions."

The society listed eight lions killed by poaching, six electrocuted, five fallen into wells, one hit by a vehicle and 12 others found dead.

The Wildlife Protection Society of India is already working closely with the enforcement authorities to curb the killing of lions by professional poachers, the society said.

The number of Asiatic lions plummeted from around 1,000 a century ago to just 20 in 1913 but the creation of the Gir sanctuary after India's independence from British colonial rule in 1947 helped revive the population.

The 1,400-square-kilometre (560-square-mile) sanctuary -- the world's only natural habitat for the lions -- was home to more than 350 lions when the latest census was carried out in 2005.

Poachers hunt in Gir for pelt, claws and body parts, which have ready markets outside India.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: AspenHill]
      #87531 - 22/10/07 12:16 AM

They don't mention the fact that the Indians have a burgeoning population that'll rival and surpass the entire population in China. It's that population encroachment that'll wipe out everything in sight. I guess they don't believe in contraception, huh.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: 475Guy]
      #87532 - 22/10/07 12:51 AM

After August 1945, America would have had the backing from her English speaking allies to have pressed on beyond Japan.

A price will be paid and paid with a day of reckoning.

Call me a racist, because I am a racist. I am not a racist in the sense that I regard the chinaman etc as inferior....but I am a racist in the sense that there is a clash.

At age 59 I don't really give too much of a fuck but I do feel sorry for people in their 30s and perhaps even mid 40s. 5 and 10 year olds will grow into it all.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: Mike_McGuire]
      #87537 - 22/10/07 02:27 AM

You're right, you are a racist. So what's that got to do with the Indian problem?

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: 475Guy]
      #87538 - 22/10/07 02:42 AM

Quote:

You're right, you are a racist. So what's that got to do with the Indian problem?



As you said, there are too may of them and it will only get worse.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: Mike_McGuire]
      #87545 - 22/10/07 04:07 AM

i agree that overpopulation is the major fault in most of the cases around the world, i think thats why the gods keep developing stuff like aids, ebola, bird flu and all the other nice stuff, just to adjust the pace a bit.
at least in india a tiger is permitted to eat a few people before anybody takes notice and shoot the critter.

p.s. i might be a dumb f**k but getting fried by a fence, thats a heavy duty fence. where could i get my hands on such a device.
all i can get my hands on here in DK is something that gives you a smart rap over the fingers.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: peter]
      #87582 - 22/10/07 11:56 AM

Europeans in population also expanded rapidly due to improvements in public hygiene (septic and sewage treatment rather than muck on the streets) and medicines during the Industrial Revolution (and before).

The difference is us Europeans expanded out across the world and colonised new territories where the local populations were technologically inferior. Like Australia, USA and Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, South and Central America.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: NitroX]
      #87583 - 22/10/07 12:02 PM

Back to the Gir lions, there always seems to be bad news about them.

One of the articles I posted in the last few years was a proposed Indian wildlife plan to replace all zoo lions in India which have become seriously inbred, sickly and dying with "fresh" stock from the wild Gir population.

How on the earth that was going to help the population survive I don't know.

I don't know how the Gir forest is situated and how much human encroachment is permitted, also if it has villages or roads within it, but ideally the park should be fenced off if possible. But the dollars required ....

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: peter]
      #87604 - 22/10/07 08:24 PM

Peter,

I believe here in the US if someone put up an electric fence that killed when touched they would be charged with a whole lot of crimes. How they have such a thing in India is odd, what if a child touches it?

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: AspenHill]
      #87609 - 23/10/07 12:01 AM

Quote"How they have such a thing in India is odd, what if a child touches it?"
It would not make any difference.Human life has no value around here.Take the recent case of our ex prime minister Benazir Bhutto who knew there would be an attempt on her life so she guarded herself well and let 150 of her loyalists die a horrible death.It has always been like this in most Asian countries,human life is of no value.What a great pity.

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: iqbal]
      #87619 - 23/10/07 03:55 AM

i was saying it only as a joke, but i am still interested in what device would be abel to keep a current that strong so it could kill over the distance a fence represent.

peter

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Re: Indian Lions Dying [Re: peter]
      #87635 - 23/10/07 12:30 PM

This is not rocket science - they just tap the high voltage line & link it to a standard barbed wire fence. Very risky but it works well as a crop protection measure - fries elephants to a crisp toast as well. This is absolutely free - just steal copper wire from some government yard & off you go. I would suspect that they would link the copper to the fence first & then tie a strong plastic cord to other end - then thow the plastic over the power line & pull up the copper wire till it touches the high voltage line & Bingo! Voila! and all that stuff.

John, well done one your objective comment about European population. 59 year old Mike could learn from you, if he wants to.

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