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gryphon
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buff for lu2safari and others
#8385 - 07/02/04 08:19 AM

sorry for the pic quality,i scanned the double centrespread page and this is not truly indicative of the original pic but it does show some top quality bulls being pushed by a couple of bullcatchers and a chopper in the "glory days" of unlimited buff numbers.Eat your heart out.

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luv2safari
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: gryphon]
#8397 - 07/02/04 12:04 PM

Great pix! When do we hunt? I'm calling a travel agent as I write this............

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Bakes
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: gryphon]
#8419 - 07/02/04 09:47 PM

Hows this one

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Bakes
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Bakes]
#8420 - 07/02/04 09:53 PM

Some more

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NitroX
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Bakes]
#8422 - 07/02/04 10:59 PM

In reply to:

How to shoot a charging buff with a 44/40 lever action.

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Bakes
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: NitroX]
#8433 - 08/02/04 02:33 AM

Actually the rider is using a Martini .303.

The pic's are from Tom Cole's "Hell west and crooked"

A bloody good read.

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mickey
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Bakes]
#8440 - 08/02/04 03:36 AM

Bakes

Is this a new book or do you have to dig around for it?

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Bakes
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: mickey]
#8445 - 08/02/04 03:52 AM

It should be easy to find, your local book shop should be able to order it in. If not let me know and I'll track down a copy for you. He also wrote a sequal called "Last Paradise"its about croc shooting in New Guinea after WW2.

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gryphon
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Bakes]
#8461 - 08/02/04 07:54 AM

Mickey its a good read that book and tells plenty about the hardships of the "Top End" buff camps from the old days.

Its only now that these animals are considered something to shoot compared to when they were simply rounded up as in the first pic and slaughtered for the meat/pet food industries,hundreds and hundreds of thousands were killed and a lot of fella`s just went out and shot em for a bit of fun, the word is they are being bred for the o/s hunters by some of the operators and the word "pen" can sometimes be brought into the story by some of the unscrupulous operators, wink, wink..........

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475Guy
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: gryphon]
#8492 - 08/02/04 05:26 PM

Do these bulls still have the horn spread nowadays as pictured above? If so, that would be a cool hunt to get one or two of those critters.

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Bakes
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: 475Guy]
#8510 - 08/02/04 11:43 PM

Talking to a guiding mate of mine one day. He was driving (in a Toyota cruiser) along a track and up ahead was a buff bull. He said the horns went from one side of the track to the other. Now alowing for the width of the cruiser plus a bit of clearence, thats a big bull. And guess what....he didn't have his rifle

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4seventy
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: 475Guy]
#8512 - 08/02/04 11:55 PM

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Do these bulls still have the horn spread nowadays as pictured above? If so, that would be a cool hunt to get one or two of those critters.

475,
There are still very good bulls around if you are hunting in the right areas but a trophy like that was not common even in the "good old days" before the government cull took place.
That photo shows a very nice sweeper head, but about 20 years back I saw a photo of a domestic water buffalo that would make that one look like a pup!

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475Guy
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: 4seventy]
#8553 - 09/02/04 12:53 PM

4seventy, I guess finding the right area is going to cost big bucks, huh?

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4seventy
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: 475Guy]
#8558 - 09/02/04 01:22 PM

475
Buff hunting prices nowdays in OZ for big trophy's are in many cases quite high but prices are also often blown right out of proportion by people who are not really in touch with the OZ safari industry.
If you know the right people you can sometimes/often arrange a fully guided/catered hunt for good trophy bulls at realistic prices.

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475Guy
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: 4seventy]
#8569 - 09/02/04 07:30 PM

Uh-huh, are you giving me an I won't be able to refuse?

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luv2safari
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Bakes]
#9113 - 15/02/04 07:13 PM

Holy cow!...er...bull! How would I get that through the door?

Oh...turn it 90 degrees, huh?

Do you still have any of those running around loose in OZ?

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Matt_Graham
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: luv2safari]
#10192 - 26/02/04 02:06 PM

Actually I think the skull old Hardy is holding belonged to a cow. Someone else might correct me if Im wrong about that one.

Are there anmals like that still, who knows? There's only one way to find out - go out and look

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4seventy
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Matt_Graham]
#10199 - 26/02/04 03:19 PM

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Actually I think the skull old Hardy is holding belonged to a cow. Someone else might correct me if Im wrong about that one

Hi Matt and welcome.
I don't have any details on that photo but to me the horn bases look too big for it to be a cow.
Could be wrong though.

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Matt_Graham
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: 4seventy]
#10257 - 27/02/04 11:25 AM

Thanks Allan

Yes they look a bit thick for a cow but maybe not as thick as you would expect for a bull of that proportion. I seem to recall Marrakai or someone telling me it was a cow. Whats the one on the wall of the Adelaide River pub? Is that the same one?

Allan - you used to do buffs hunts around the Roper, is that correct? Not any more? Just curious mate. Send me an email if you like

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NitroX
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: Matt_Graham]
#10262 - 27/02/04 12:06 PM

I believe it was a cow too. Not sure where I heard that. Probably on a forum somewhere in the past. So it must be true!

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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: NitroX]
#10541 - 01/03/04 11:35 PM

If I saw a cow buff with horns like that I'd shoot it too. Great photos!

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: AspenHill]
#13257 - 10/04/04 01:13 AM

How about this old girl.

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ALAN_MCKENZIE
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Re: buff for lu2safari and others [Re: AspenHill]
#13260 - 10/04/04 01:22 AM

Or this bull. SCI 118

Plenty still there if you know where to look..

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