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m4220
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10.25x69R ammo
      #82365 - 13/07/07 01:20 PM

Need help in finding some 10.25x69R ammo for use in a H Scherping
cape gun I aqquired recently, it is fluid steel on the rifle bbl &
Damascus steel on the 12 gauge bbl. I though I might see if I could
some prior to buying dies and making my own, will also be in need of bullets.

thanks
Mike

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Re: 10.25x69R ammo [Re: m4220]
      #82588 - 17/07/07 02:46 PM

This gun probably was made well before WW I, for black powder cartridges.
I have never heard of such a metric cartridge of German or Austrian origin.
This does not mean it did not exist - but then old cartridges will be extremely rare.
But those dimensions might be the metric designation of a British cartridge, .400 caliber and 2 3/4 case length.

Fuhrmann

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Re: 10.25x69R ammo [Re: fuhrmann]
      #82638 - 19/07/07 05:27 AM

If you have access to John Donnellys book have a look at
450/400
475 nitro express
476 Westley richards
50/140 ( 3 1/4") sharps
I,m not saying they are going to drop straight in but they are the closest ones I can see.
the book is called
The Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions
by John J Donnelly
printed by Stoeger Publishing Co
ISBN 0-88317-136-8
good shooting
sbs470

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Re: 10.25x69R ammo [Re: sbs470]
      #82640 - 19/07/07 07:25 AM

M4220:
When I return home this evening, I have some books with good Eurpean Sporting Cartridge reference. By coincidence, the main book is called European Sporting Cartridges! I is more a cartridge collectors book, but to find dimensions of many obsolete and very limited production oldies, this is a good source.
I also have a couple of capes. One is German by F.R. Neumeyer in a vey odd 9.5X56 bottleneck. From the books, I found I can make brass by reforming 11.15X60R (11Mauser). The previous post may well be the case for a .450 NP based case. This was popular for some time. My other is a Huskavarna SXS cape in a 12.7X44R. Both have shot barrels in 16 ga 2.5 (65mm).
I am fasinated by the SxS combos and these old calibers. I will let you know what I find.
Congrats on the find and aquasition. Post photos.
I will when I figure out how.

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"A hunter should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everthing goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." 88MauSporter

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Re: 10.25x69R ammo [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #84855 - 29/08/07 10:11 AM

Sorry folks after chamber casting I am told it is a 10.25x60R and is
mentioned on page 45 of Dixon's "european sporting cartridges" vol 1
as being commercially loaded from 1873 until 1910. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
thanks
M4220

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Re: 10.25x69R ammo [Re: m4220]
      #85217 - 06/09/07 12:21 PM

See this topic under "Reloading"

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