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larcher
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SCOPE and Hand luggage
      #82120 - 10/07/07 12:45 AM

Do the airlines allow scope being held in a carry on baggage.
Or must the scopes be stored in the guncase in the hold (load compartiment) of the plane?
A scope might be a first rate bludgeon and the (coated) lenses paramount to slice any throat handy?
In these critical times, when airlines are afraid of whatever can look like a weapon, I am afraid a scope be considered an arm.
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Edited by larcher (10/07/07 08:08 PM)

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Bonde
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: larcher]
      #82140 - 10/07/07 07:43 AM

Hi,

I had a bit of a quarrel with the airportofficials in the Netherlands going to Canada back in '97. I was probably looked upon as cocky when I at last asked for the officer in charge... I was a bit weary and fed up with the guy who thought he knew, but really didn't have a clue.... In the end I borded With mye riflescope...

The Scope is technically not a gun part, but these days I'd rather just wrap it up well and keep it in my suitcase in the hold.

Better safe than sorry really...?

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500Nitro
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: larcher]
      #82141 - 10/07/07 07:57 AM

Quote:

Do the airlines allow scope being held in a hand luggage.
Or must the scopes be stored in the guncase in the hold (load compartiment) of the plane?
A scope might be a first rate bludgeon and the (coated) lenses paramount to slice any throat handy?
In these critical times, when airlines are afraid of whatever can look like a weapon, I am afraid a scope be considered an arm.
???????????????????




In short - NO - and even more so in this current environment.

Don't even try it - you are likely to get halled away for questioning and miss the plane as it would be classed by them as part of a firearm and one of the things they are worried about is these getting onto the plane in parts.

I was even queried on dies - I told them they were
machine parts !

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9.3x57
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: Bonde]
      #82154 - 10/07/07 12:14 PM

Quote:

Hi,

I had a bit of a quarrel with the airportofficials in the Netherlands going to Canada back in '97. I was probably looked upon as cocky when I at last asked for the officer in charge... I was a bit weary and fed up with the guy who thought he knew, but really didn't have a clue.... In the end I borded With mye riflescope...

The Scope is technically not a gun part, but these days I'd rather just wrap it up well and keep it in my suitcase in the hold.

Better safe than sorry really...?



I had a similar experience with a rifle bolt in 1988 in London. I was told {"commanded!"} by airline check-in people in New York to remove the bolt from the rifle and keep it in my carry-on luggage separate from the rifle. Upon arrival in London and whilst making the change to SAA, my carry-on bags were, naturally, searched, the bolt found, and then "Security Personnel" commenced holding it like a "pistol" and roaring that it was a gun!

I at first chuckled at their utter stupidity, but it became less humorous over the next few minutes when a swirl of security people swarmed around me and virtually in-unison proclaimed that I had just finished a transatlantic flight and was attempting to board another filght with a gun in my carry-on bags! Things got very tense with me at one point yelling at them, then begging that I demanded to see somebody in-uniform who knew what the hell a gun was.

Eventually, after I had been detained for some time with my wife absolutely mortified, a guy showed up who stated he had spent some years in the British Army. I asked him if he knew what a gun bolt was. He nodded, then the other knuckleheads handed the thing to him. He chuckled a bit himself. In essence, he told the rest of them to bugger off and leave me alone, told them he'd humor them by sending the bolt up-front with the pilot and apologised for the absolute monkeyshines that I had been subjected to.

That guy was a champ, and I have no idea what would have happened if he hadn't showed up.

My vote is to pack the scope with the rifle!

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500Nitro
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: 9.3x57]
      #82155 - 10/07/07 12:57 PM



That's why it's always good to carry a copy
of the IATA regulations in your hand luggage.

Even Security at an airport can't overule IATA
Regulations.

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EricD
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: larcher]
      #82190 - 11/07/07 04:30 AM

Larcher,

In todays world, I would not bring a scope in my carry-on luggage. Although I've done so in the past.

Keep it in your gun case IMO.

Erik

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NE450No2
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: EricD]
      #82786 - 21/07/07 05:59 PM

On most all of my flights, including 2 trips to Zimbabwe in 2006 I have carried scopes in my carry on.

On my last trip my wife had 3 scopes in her carry on and I had 4 in mine.

No problems. We also had several flashlights and extra batteries in them as well.

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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: NE450No2]
      #82789 - 21/07/07 07:21 PM

On my trip to Zambia from the US thru London last year I carried 2 rifle scopes in my carry-on luggage with no problems going both ways.I was on British Air.

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ozhunter
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: 404]
      #82797 - 22/07/07 01:11 AM

Do you feel lucky ?

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JohnTheGreek
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: ozhunter]
      #82812 - 22/07/07 04:23 AM

Probably not worth the risk....but one could easily proclaim the item a "birdwatching telescope" and more than likely most wouldn't know the difference. Anyone who did would surely know it's not a gun.

Best,

John

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NE450No2
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: JohnTheGreek]
      #82855 - 22/07/07 04:54 PM

John
How are you doing?

I am in SLC and spent the day with AJ.

We will be shooting at the club tomorrow.

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JohnTheGreek
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: NE450No2]
      #82888 - 23/07/07 03:51 AM

Hi 450,

I'm jealous...shooting ranges are few and far between here.
I assume you were recently up in Idaho bear hunting? How was it?

Best,

John

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Ripp
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: larcher]
      #82894 - 23/07/07 05:36 AM

The last two times I headed to Africa --I put the xtra scope in with the gun case wrapped up in cloth and a protective case in my metal gun case--all was well --fortunately never needed it to this point--but one never knows when you might..
thx
Ripp

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NE450No2
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Re: SCOPE and Hand luggage [Re: JohnTheGreek]
      #83047 - 25/07/07 03:27 PM

John we spent most of the time fishing with my buddies 8 year old son.

I did have one bear bait hit but we did not set on it. I am going back in Sept to hit it hard.

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