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DUGABOY1
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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: DarylS]
      #81567 - 01/07/07 07:04 AM

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Fast action or match-type accuracy from a hunting rifle, so far, no hunting sights can beat the English Express sights, with wide shallow "V" and a bead front sight.
: Hold your tongue correctly, and the rifle will shoot into 1-1/2" or less on paper at 100 meters, or blast the animal perfectly in as little time as needed to shoulder the weapon. A properly stocked and sighted rifle is dead-on the moment the stock sinks into the shoudler pocket.




I agree completely! The sights on a DGR begin on the stock fitter's work bench! If the rifle fits you the sights are "ON" when you mount the rifle. If it doesn't fit you, no matter what type of sight you have, you will waste time trying to line up on the target. Not the best idea when shooting something that wants to turn you into a mass of hairy jelly!

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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: Stuart]
      #81579 - 01/07/07 11:22 AM

I like a good receiver sight if I have to use iron sights. The problem is my eyes focus just as bad as the camera that Stuart used to take his pictures and couldn’t get both the front and back sights to be in focus.
Bill

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88MauSporter
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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: Stuart]
      #81586 - 01/07/07 02:35 PM

Stuart:
I like the setup of the sights on the Martin-Enfield. I have just purchased one on internet.
I t is nice outside, action wise and wood is good except the carbine has been "arsenal refinished".
Most markings OK on metal, but the stock is well sanded.
This must have been converted to a parade / drill rifle. I too would like to replace the barrel for another .303. The on on the gun is baaad!! You say you installed an SMLE no1 mk III barrel?
What had to be done to fit it to the receiver? Are the treads alike or need to be redone?
I am replacing the firing pin, and want to have a good shooter -hunter.
88MauSporter

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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #81603 - 02/07/07 12:13 AM

Just got double back from JJ this week. In addition to re-regulating it, he also installed a new brass bead front site. It had a post on it before. The bead along with the shallow 'V" rear works pretty good. Quick, easy to pick and place.

-Steve

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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: DarylS]
      #81627 - 02/07/07 06:04 AM

Ross Seyfried has long been one of my favorite authors of articles. I like the way he writes about his own guns and passion for the guns he has interest and reloading for the old and odd. He seems to discribe how my interest is in old, odd, historic and quality guns of many types.
His insight into loading for Nitro express cartridges and BPE guns is always a great place to start working if you wna to do this. The "4198" ratio for black powder and the Relaoder 15 ratios for cordite are great.
I have used his owrk to help build loads for old and obsolete BP cartridges.
I could see by his magazine writing in the last few years, that he had lost interest in testing or messing with SS/plastic new guns or the latest wiz-bang magnums.
He writes for the Double Gun Journal and all of the articles I have read are great. I subscribe and enjoy the publication greatly. The only thing about it is that I tend to lust for the guns and rifles out of my budget.
I truely enjoy the info from this forum. there is a lot of experience out there.

88MauSporter

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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #81628 - 02/07/07 06:18 AM

Seyfried does have a lot of good things to say, certainly.

I am betting that like CE Harris before him, he got sick of "The Industry" and more-or-less jumped ship. I know that's what happened to Ed Harris, not sure about Seyfried.

There are good reasons for getting sick of the industry. Lots. Some might be surprised to know some other writers who have pulled out of it.

Guns last a long time, longer than the buyers, typically! That right there means that the industry exists on multiple sales to the same people, since new shooters only slowly enter the gun buying market, particularly the long gun market. Since American gun rags are no longer forums for technical research and the trading of information {guess where that takes place?} and since there are MANY people in the country who have as much or more experience as do the gun writers, the gun rags have essentially become mere advertising slicks for the myriad products of the industry; guns and accessories. "New and improved" this, "Gotta get" that.

If a guy wants to write about guns and get paid for it, he will for the most part be merely a salesman for the companies that advertise in his magazine. He is NOT a disinterested third party.

Dirty little secret? No, just free market forces at work.

Anyway, sorry to hijack my own post...

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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #81645 - 02/07/07 12:29 PM

9ThreeXFifty7:
I guess that's why I subscribe to the Double Gun journal, and of course, this forum.
I like what I like. I don't make my money here.
Liked seeing the your rifles. As soon as I fugure out how, I will post a few of mine.
Fun old stuff with lot's of history.The "Sights" subject was a good one. Shows a lot of thought and experience on the subject.
88MauSporter

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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #81746 - 03/07/07 01:14 PM

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Stuart:
I like the setup of the sights on the Martin-Enfield. I have just purchased one on internet....You say you installed an SMLE no1 mk III barrel? What had to be done to fit it to the receiver? Are the treads alike or need to be redone?


88Mau,
The original bore on my Martini-Enfield was quite pitted and the groups were disappointing. I'm guessing it may have had a lot of corrosive ammo put through it:


I made some enquiries and was told that the barrel thread on the SMLE Nº1 was the same, so I acquired a barrel and sent it off to be fitted. As far as I know, all that had to be done was to machine the cuts for the extractor. You can see the original cutout for the SMLE extractor in the pic:



The original barrel on mine was minus the rear sight so I'm not familiar with it. I must admit that my first range session with the new barrel was a little disappointing but I see no reason it shouldn't shoot well as the bore appears to be very bright and sharp so I looking forward to further sessions at the range with my reloading gear.

I've also widened the rear notch a little and have now made a new, even taller front sight as it was shooting a bit high with the rear sight set as low as it would go, this with RN Remington bullets over 43 grains of RL 15.

I think there may also have been some issues with the contact of the forearm. It has a hook into the breech but a prev. owner had also replaced the rear breech hook plate screw with a machine screw into the bottom of the knox form to secure it properly. I didn't want to do this so soldered a 10-32 nut on to the bottom of the rear sight and put a screw through near the end of the forearm. I have since glass-bedded the entire forearm. Probably one could free-float the forearm if a suitable "hanger" could be welded into the breech but I'd rather not go there at this point.


I've also refinished all the wood. This carbine has absolutely no markings on the side of the action so I have no idea of its provenance. The original barrel has lots of marks but the crowns are indistinct so it's hard to say whether it is a Victorian or Edwardian rifle.

I had some correspondence with a chap on Canadian Gunnutz from Tuscon named John Sukey (who also posts on other forums) who put an entire SMLE Nº1 forend set on his Martini and it looked pretty sharp. I think it was John who told me about the threads being the same.

There is along-barreled M-E in .303 (with a good bore) for sale up here which I am very tempted to pick up. Is resistance futile? We shall see... The *^&%% things can be addictive. I'm also having ideas of another barrel for it, maybe in a mid-30's calibre such as 38-55 or, in moments of total madness, a .333 Jeffrey (but with a .338 bore as there is a better selection of bullets.) A 7x57rimmed (.275 Flanged Rigby) might be interesting, too. (Yes, I am clearly out of my mind.) But I want to get it shooting nicely as a .303 first.

Well, I think that pretty well hijacks this thread!

Stuart

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Edited by Stuart (03/07/07 01:16 PM)

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to zimhunter..... [Re: DarylS]
      #81758 - 03/07/07 09:16 PM

here you are....


http://www.recknagel.de/homeenglisch.htm

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88MauSporter
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Re: Iron Sight Preferences? [Re: Stuart]
      #81807 - 04/07/07 09:26 AM

Stuart:
That was the exact info I wanted. I have one that has a bore even worse than the original you show me. My option was rebarreling or reboring. I was thinking reboring to something like a .405 Win or 450/400, but, It is quite light and then I would be looking at a full rebuild. Then I would have to find another M-E Carbine.
I think I will look for the .303 barrel. Do you know a source?
I am in Texas.
OH ! , just to keep in the theme of (sorry to digress), do you know a source for the more sporter blade sights that fit the SMLE dovetail?
Nice photos. Better than the "thousand words.
88MauSporter.

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