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John303
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Building A Hammer DR????
      #79799 - 03/06/07 12:28 AM

I have for quite some time now been mulling over building a DR and have many options as far as a donor shot gun. Has anyone out there made a DR out of a hammer gun ( as a hobbyist I mean ). The reason for asking is I have a W. P. Jones underlever,in excellent condition except for one thing **** the are barrels completely rusted through between the ribs. Would this be a good candidate for perhaps a 38.55 - I would prefer a .303 but suspect this would be too much pressure. Just need some suggestions from others who have travelled this road and the pitfalls I would face. Feel free to ask any ? you may have. --- John303

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Marrakai
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: John303]
      #79805 - 03/06/07 01:17 AM

For a BP-proved 12-bore ULH, I would consider a fully-rifled 20ga bore-gun. Barrels are available from E.R.Shaw, Hastings, etc, and a mold can easily be made for either the Fosbery-style projectile or a heavier lead slug. Bore-gun pressures for the smaller 20ga could be kept well within the BP 12ga range.

You don't give any indication of your location, John. If you update your profile, we would know whether you intend to annoy the local white-tails, or something bigger...!

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John303
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: Marrakai]
      #79808 - 03/06/07 03:34 AM

Marrakai; Thanks for the reply, I have considered the 20 gau. option and did in fact contact Hastings & Shaw they do not have an export license to Canada - I have to get around that one or maybe find something doable here at some gun show. Actually the 20 would be my best option as we do have a deer season in my locale for shotguns only. As for my residence I live about half way between Detroit Mich. and London Ont. near the historic oil town of Petrolia. I would assume mono-blocking the new barrels would be the best option. --- John303

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sakmyk
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: John303]
      #79817 - 03/06/07 06:58 AM

John303,

just a thought. Years ago I ordered maybe half a dozen 12ga fully rifled blanks from Hastings and imported them to Finland. It appeared then that those tubes were actually made by the company Verney-Carron in France. I don't know if they still make those, but it might be worthwhile to contact this french firm. Especially, if they are able to export goods to your country.

I guess their site is http://www.verney-carron.com/

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Saku

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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: sakmyk]
      #79928 - 04/06/07 09:12 PM

For a Jones-patent under-lever gun, 'mono-blocking' would probably be the only viable option, and perhaps the best one in any case.

sakmyk:
A very good suggestion. I tried to get Verney Carron to send me a pair of fully rifled 12-bore tubes several years ago. They didn't have an agent in Australia at the time, and were very reluctant to commit to anything. They played dumb a bit, demanding engineering drawings (!), and after several e-mail exchanges I could see the writing on the wall and gave up. I hope John303 has better luck, which might inspire me to try again... Still haven't built my own Paradox yet!

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Rich
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: John303]
      #80187 - 08/06/07 10:50 PM

I am building a double on a Olsen Maneg 16 gauge useing ERShaw bbls. I live near them and use them all the time for my doubles. Is there a restriction on sending bbls. to Canada. Rich [image][/image]
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: Rich]
      #80188 - 08/06/07 10:53 PM

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Rich
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: Rich]
      #80189 - 08/06/07 10:54 PM

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John303
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: Rich]
      #80535 - 13/06/07 10:03 PM

Nice pics Rich, you will certainly have a nice when finished. In answer to your question - it seems that that Shaw etc need an export license to export barrels etc to Canada. I think because of "volume" (very few orders requested) they just can't be bothered. I'll just look around and maybe find something here - time is not an issue is this seach. Take care all---- John303

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John303
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Re: Building A Hammer DR???? [Re: John303]
      #80771 - 17/06/07 01:41 AM

A lot of interesting material has come to the fore, answering a lot of questions on the procedures - mounting the barrels etc. One thing I would like to see is a pictorial on making and mounting the new ribs as I assume a new set would need to be made. Not to stir the pot but would it be the consensus of the "pros" that a side lock / hammer, extractor would be the best choice for a conversion from the inherent strenght of the action? I realize that the cartridge size etc. would come into play as well but would not this type of action be the best choice simply because of the " lack of cuts" through out the action. --- John303

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