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NE450No2
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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Schamankungulo]
      #84853 - 29/08/07 09:30 AM

For Alaskan Griz I took my Synthentic Blaser R 93 in 300 Win Mag shooting 200gr TBBC.

For Alaskan Brown Bear I would take the same rifle with a 375 H&H bbl.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: NE450No2]
      #84890 - 30/08/07 12:16 AM

I don't spend more than a couple of weeks at a time up there so I frankly don't feel that I need to spend huge amounts of funds for short duration hunts. I bought a Savage 116 Weather Master in .375 H&H. Synthetic stock and stainless finish. It has back up open sights as well. It does not have controlled round feed and the safety is tang mounted. But it is light, extremely durable (so far) and shoots like a house-a-fire. In fact it shoots so well, I plan on using it for elk and African plains game as well. Pretty nice rifle for less than $600. It will go to Alaska next time.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Schamankungulo]
      #85173 - 05/09/07 11:37 AM

My choice would be a Remington XCR in a 300 mag up to 375H&H (I have the H&H) or a Remington Model 7 XCR in 350rem mag or 338fed, both are light, accurate and will take anything mother nature can throw at them.

Throw a Kahles or Swarovski scope on top, I like the 2-7X36 myself and your set.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Schamankungulo]
      #85174 - 05/09/07 12:08 PM

My choices in caliber would be 338 wm, 9.3x74r, 416 remington. I picked these simply because that's what I have. I have owned a 375 H&H mauser that I loved and I think it wold have been great on brown bear, but it was too nice for those conditions. I've also got a great 9.3x74r Chapuis double that would work well as well, but again, I don't know that I would want to risk ruining that gun prior to its trip to Africa. I've got a ruger 338 winny and a remington 416 remy, which would be my final choice. The 416's shoot flat and accurately enough for those ranges mentioned, and I don't think one can have too much gun when hunting any type of DG. Also, bigger cals equal bigger, bloodier holes. Moreover, these all equate to fewer injured and more easily found animals. A tough, but fun decision.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: maddenwh]
      #85213 - 06/09/07 10:00 AM

A guy couldn't go wrong with a 375 H&H Model 70 in SS w/QD scope.

But why limit yourself to a bolt action when there are so many great DR's for the task?

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: AzGuy]
      #85352 - 10/09/07 02:51 AM

Some of you no doubt know the postings of Phil Shoemaker on a different forum. As we discuss this, he is busy wringing out a pair of 375 Hawkeyes (one Alaskan, one African) for this bear season.
His first impressions of the Alaskan (not an exact quote, but close): "It has the weight of a sheep rifle with the power to stop large bears."
However, he detested the Hogue stock. The tacky surface hangs up on clothing during a rapid mount. The pistol grip and forearm, while great from the bench, are worthless on an offhand rifle. So he replaced the stock with the standard Ruger plastic version, rasped down the forearm some, and off he went.

Can't wait to hear his full report after the season.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Savuti_One_Shot]
      #85353 - 10/09/07 03:07 AM

Each to his own--

I shoot a Hogue Synthetic stock on my 338 Win 70 and enjoy it.This is the same style stock on the ruger 375 Alaskan

I used this rifle is Africa and collected 6 animals out to 270 yds either offhand or off shooting sticks without problems.

The oversize foreend was fine for my Large(size 8)hands and the pistol grip no problem.I have along reach(LOP) as well.

I will admit that given a preference that the standard Win 70 supergrade stock is my favorite for offhand shooting and carry. The Hogue is oversize and you have to adapt to it.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: hoppdoc]
      #85466 - 12/09/07 03:38 AM

I like 260Rem's comment, I like the idea of the Remington XCR in .375 H&H, but also available in the new .375 RUM if you demand more power or more range. Here is a great article on this topic I found online - http://www.huntingmag.com/big_game/bear_busting/

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Strawman419]
      #85528 - 13/09/07 02:37 AM

The best Big Bore Bolt would be the the CZ 458 Lott. It can kill any animal in the world from the big bears to Moose to whales,& Polar bears.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: jro45]
      #85915 - 20/09/07 02:53 AM

I absolutely agree. However, I'd have to say the Ruger RSM in the Lott, just because it's what I use--a very well made rifle for the money--twice what a CZ is (just my opinion). But as to the Lott, yes, I agree wholeheartedly.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: walksfar]
      #87444 - 20/10/07 02:17 AM

Word has come in on another forum from several retailers: Ruger is asking them to pull the 375 Alaskans off the shelf and await replacement stocks. They also want them to contact customers who already bought one and get them the new stock. No word yet on what the new stock is.

Looks like Ruger is listening to the end user. Refreshing attitude these days.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Savuti_One_Shot]
      #87517 - 21/10/07 04:48 PM

I've been carrying my Mk X 458 now for twenty-five years and it has become a part of me and killed a pile of big bears however if I lost it tomorrow I would buy a new Ruger 375 stainless "Alaskan" , replace the Hogue stock with a standard factory synthetic one, and not feel the least bit deprived.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: 458Win]
      #87520 - 21/10/07 09:12 PM

Rugers are decent bolts but need work.

I like Win70's-

I have no problem with the Ruger safeties but hate their spring loaded triggers--

Do Rugers have problems with case ejection/ejectors with fast bolt usage(review the Zim PH bolt exam thread)? Can't say I have noticed the problem with the smaller caliber Rugers I shoot.

If I had an Alaskan 375 Ruger I would change the stock, change the trigger and make sure the bolt's ejection worked at hyper speed(again review the Zim PH bolt exam thread).I do have a reworked rebarreled ruger by LaBounty that is great and has no functional problems that I am aware of.

A reworked Ruger would be fine but a synthetic SS big bolt Win 70 would be better!!!!

Edited by hoppdoc (21/10/07 09:25 PM)

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: hoppdoc]
      #87523 - 21/10/07 10:20 PM

I would want a rifle with in line feed, preferably push feed, but CRF would be OK IF an in line feed.

If the rifle "had to be" stagger feed then I would want push feed an the feeding controlled by the magazine box as with 303 SMLE and the Wby Mark V

Although to be fair to CRF.....and given the very small amount of shooting...one could make sure that they checked ammo and/or only used new brass and checked the new brass (via bolt cycling)for case rim and extractor groove dimensions. These latter dimensions and /or case rim condition can sink even a D'Arcy Echols CRF.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: Mike_McGuire]
      #87578 - 22/10/07 10:57 AM

Whatcha gonna choose??

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83122890

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83354870

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83178414

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83421496

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83385127

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83208294

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83372369

Other choices???

Alaska awaits with all that terrible weather and Big Bears--

Whatcha gonna shoot dude??

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Edited by hoppdoc (22/10/07 08:37 PM)

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: ejfudd]
      #88281 - 06/11/07 01:00 AM

I agree with Allen, shot placement and a reasonable caliber is what's required. Some of my most "exciting" days hunting were when a client shot a good sized Montana grizzly (25 permits a year were given back then) in the butt 30 years ago with a Weatherby magnum. He flinched so bad, I'm amazed he hit him at all. The guide, and I (the hired help, who was along for the adventure and the chance to pack out a spike elk bull on horseback instead of carry it out in quarters on my back) got to go in the thick stuff and finish him. The guide carried a 30-06 with 220g bullets, I carried a 270 with 150g bullets (I had recently upgraded from a .243 so I thought the .270 was "big medicine"). Of course this wasn't a Kodiak grizzly, just one of those little Montana ones. These days I'd want a 375 H&H to go in the thick stuff after bear period (or maybe a nice .470 double rifle).



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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: chuck375]
      #88313 - 06/11/07 12:25 PM

Hoppdoc;

A question...What are you referring to involving ejection problems with fast bolt operation with Rugers?

Also, the Ruger M77MKII is a VERY easy trigger to rework. That's good since they are TERRIBLE from the factory. I modify all of mine {I like Rugers} to about 3.75 lbs and eliminate creep.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #88428 - 07/11/07 05:09 PM

I have both the Alaskan and the African model 375 Rugers and have carried one or the other of them since May. Rugers have always had an outstanding ruputation for durability here in Alaska and these new Rugers feed better and are more accurate than the old ones and in my opinion better than many custom and most semi-custom rifles.
They are my first pick for the ideal Alaskan rifle and far ahead of anything in second place.

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: 458Win]
      #88447 - 08/11/07 12:39 AM

Quote:

I have both the Alaskan and the African model 375 Rugers and have carried one or the other of them since May. Rugers have always had an outstanding ruputation for durability here in Alaska and these new Rugers feed better and are more accurate than the old ones and in my opinion better than many custom and most semi-custom rifles.
They are my first pick for the ideal Alaskan rifle and far ahead of anything in second place.



As posted elsewhere, I am a diehard Ruger fan, but I have to admit I modify every one I buy; freefloat the barrels, bed the action, relieve the tang, rework the trigger.

Feeding and functioning I've never had a problem with except for one old tang-safety 7x57 that had a bad extractor which once switched with a new one has lived happily ever after. When you say the new ones feed better than the old ones, that is really saying something as I haven't ever had a functioning problem with Rugers except for the 7x57 above-mentioned.

Phil, what about the new trigger?

I have handled a couple of the standard "Hawkeyes" and I was not impressed at all. Spongy, lots of creep, in short, no difference between the factory Hawkeye trigger and the old M77MKII. A real letdown as I know Savage has set the bar high for all the companies and a bad trigger is not going to play well in Peoria, or I suppose up there where you are.

How about the ones you have used?

Maybe that is an irrelevant question though since you are a very well-respected fellow in the industry and unless you just bought one off the rack I reckon the gents at Ruger made sure yours was a good'un {??}. Every one I have tried here in North Idaho was BAD and I am a bit sore about it because I read all the advertising hype in print before I saw the guns and really anticipated a dramatic improvement over the old M77MKII. If they are all as bad as the ones I tested I just hope they are as easy to work on as are the M77MKII's...

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Re: Best Alaskan Big Bore Bolt?? [Re: 9.3x57]
      #88460 - 08/11/07 04:34 AM


458Win, I have enjoyed reading your posts.

What bullets in .458 and .505 gave you the best performance on Brown Bears?

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