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Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle?
      #74894 - 29/03/07 04:21 AM

One of these is a drilling and the other an under and over, but probably no reason a Blaser double couldn't get a plastic stock.

Any thoughts?





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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #74897 - 29/03/07 04:43 AM

Nausea!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: CptCurl]
      #74899 - 29/03/07 05:05 AM

I'm sorry, but, I agree... nausea!!!!!!

ANY great rifle deserves a piece of great wood... and ALL double rifles are great.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: pistolchamp]
      #74909 - 29/03/07 05:56 AM

What are these rifles.., current production?

If the price was right, could be good for Alaska, Maine, and other places where there's wet climate and big game like bear.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: tinker]
      #74913 - 29/03/07 06:10 AM

Searcy made a prototype stainless steel plastic stocked rifle about 7 years ago, but no one ordered one. It would be perfect for a guide in Alaska.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: 500grains]
      #74944 - 29/03/07 11:55 AM

I agree with 500 grains.

A big stainless Double with a synthetic stock would see perfect for crazy alaskan weather and stalking alaskan Brown Bear in the alders.

Only problem is that it would be seriously UGLY
But if it were priced right I would luv to have one!!!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #74946 - 29/03/07 12:05 PM

In a word YUK!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: ]
      #74958 - 29/03/07 03:15 PM

It is just right for tough conditions. Where your

wood will take some lumps, the plastic will likely

not be nicked or marked. And if it happens, who

cares!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: tinker]
      #74967 - 29/03/07 04:48 PM

Quote:

What are these rifles.., current production?

If the price was right, could be good for Alaska, Maine, and other places where there's wet climate and big game like bear.

--Tinker



These are after market modifications that can be done to Blaser U/O doubles, drillings, singles etc.

The website does not list the side by side yet.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: BigFiveJack]
      #74968 - 29/03/07 04:49 PM

They are made by Thomas Nowak:

http://www.thomasnowak.com/EnglischThomasNowak/index.htm

They do not make them (yet) for the S2, but they do have versions for the Blaser D99, 95, 97 and K95.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: Nighthawk]
      #74969 - 29/03/07 04:55 PM



Perhaps an ideal lightweight rifle for rough wet, snowy mountain game - A plastic stock K95?

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #86686 - 06/10/07 03:36 PM

The idea

"Different kind of hunts, often in difficult areas and sometimes under extrem weather conditions , requires a high quality rifle and stock. Using the most modern materials in weapon technology made it possible to improve quality, durability and handling of our stocks.

A durable synthetic is clearly superior than wood. The bolt action weapon, a weapon that has existed for a long time, is fully established with synthetic stocks by now. For break action weapons a suitable item is not yet available despite existing demands."


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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #86687 - 06/10/07 03:43 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen,

What do you think of this idea?

http://www.schiesskino-rhein-main.de/


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http://www.schiesskino-rhein-main.de/Schiesskino.htm


Practice under close-to-reality conditions in one the most modern and
most generous plants the jagdlichen shot.

They can train the catch shot with us both starting from 3 m, and the fastidious volatile shot starting from 30 m.

All other distances are simulated over the appropriate image representation. Standing, kneeling, lying, sitting presented or of the pressing hunt support - everything is possible!

Their training is always supported by appropriate technical personnel (professional shooting teachers, as well as Buechsenmachermeister).

You keep a large selection ammunition of different calibers natural with us at favourable prices. With Exoten you should book in advance please. Also interesting test weapons with appropriate optics are to you at the disposal. Shoot your own weapon or test you your dream weapon. Gladly we make for this an offer for you, but use you our possibilities without kaufzwang.

They can train with us with all commercial cartridges up to an energy of 7.000 joules and all jagdlich and sportily certified projectiles.

A shooting enterprise is conceivable 365 days in the year and 24 hours on the day.

Dates must be agreed upon however. (telephone: 06054 440 companies Reuel & CO.) Whether before or after shooting, use you our friendly arranged lounge for easing, a discussion under Gleichgesinnten or simply only for the file of your resisting ashes.

A flat screen shows you the current happening on the shooting facility.

Further you have here the possibility available of using the offered beverages and naturally stand for you also toilets.

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Anyone tried it?



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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #86688 - 06/10/07 08:28 PM

I did and wrote up an article for a local hunting magazine. Game (I tried boars and deer) fall when hit properly and after the shot, the image freezes and the bullet impact (good or bad) is materialized by a laser projected dot. It's totally computer driven, offers replay of any situation, a broad choice of scenarios in worldwide hunting (also police shooting). Amazing is that :

- you fire at a same distance (30 m) on moving game, close by and further away ;

- you may use any rifle in any caliber, but you have to feed the latter into the computer, which in turns adapts the needed forward hold the compensates for the different velocities and distance...

E.g., you shoot at running boars at 15m and 50 m. Well, you will need to lead more at the longer distance and a slower 9,3x62 will also demand more forward hold than a faster .300 Win.

- you never realize that you're doing all your shooting at a true distance of 30m, whatever the apparent size and distance of game !

It feels very, very real.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: André]
      #86700 - 07/10/07 01:10 AM

On the plastic stocked double rifle question...


The bear hunting I've been doing lately up in the far north end of California, the terrain is rough and he hunting is tough.
I've been up and down numerous 1000-1400 ft rocky forested canyon faces in the past few weeks, and the next trip out will be in early November where I will likely be hunting in very cold rain and possibly snow.

Frankly, I'd love to have a *solid* plastic-fantastic stainless and (carbon/boron/kevlar/weave/etc) plastic boxlock ejector double rifle chambered in .458 for this kind of hunting.
I've owned and shot numerous McMillan stocked tactical and hunting rifles (still own a very accurate thirty caliber bolt gun like that) that could take enormous servings of abuse and just keep ticking along inside thier '1/2moa or better in any condition' performance envelope.

Satin stainless tubes and bombproof-stable stocks have a place somewhere. I'd even take the same thing with blue steel tubes.


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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #86723 - 07/10/07 10:31 AM


Nitro X,

I love plastics! I have made my living selling plastics for the past 13 years. Blow molding, injection molding and thermoformed plastics. However on a double rifle.... HECK NO!!!! For me its wood or nothing. If the wood gets broke, damaged, etc simply get another WOOD stock:))))

Im sure there will be those that will retrofit their Blaser or what ever for the harsh condition hunts and they can have at it. Not me. I will continue to sport serious wood:))))))))))))


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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: 1980E26]
      #86738 - 07/10/07 05:44 PM

uuuggghhh...I liken it to putting plastic wheel trims on your Aston Martin...there are some things you dont tamper with!!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: paradox_]
      #86740 - 07/10/07 06:27 PM

A plastic stocked double sounds perfect for a central African rainforest hunt. And I suppose a second stock set in wood could be made, to use in other conditions. So you could have the best of both worlds.

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: EricD]
      #86878 - 10/10/07 05:09 AM

In one of the photos you can see a plastic stocked Blaser DR with a Bushnell Holosight.

Double Aargh!!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: herrdoktor]
      #86882 - 10/10/07 06:32 AM

I view the need for such as entirely manufactured.

A good quality double rifle is a hunting rifle, period. Used for that purpose, like any other hunting arm, they'll get the full monty. That's what they're for, and they're especially well designed for it. I find them much more resistant to weather than other action types. Stainless and plastic won't make them work any better, or any easier to maintain.

For my bear and elk hunting, I use a pre-war British medium bore boxlock double rifle. It's been through countless thunderstorms, snow and ice, dust, and mud. It gets wet - a LOT. When it does, I wipe it down at the end of the day, and run a patch down the bores. It's then ready for the next day's hunt. When I get home, I clean it thoroughly (not a strip and clean though), clean and oil the bores, and put it in the safe. Nowhere near as much trouble as a bolt rifle. Nice not having to worry about the inside. I have a full strip and clean done every 5 to 6 years on average. I just had one done after 7 years. Remembering a hunt through 6 straight days of heavy rain a month after the last one was done, I watched over my gunmaker's shoulder as he pulled it apart. It remains as pristine inside as they day it was made.

Sure, they'll get a few work marks. I put a nice scratch in the stock some years ago when I went end over end down a mountain with it tucked in my gut (where I bear hunt is pretty much veritcal country). You gonna hunt, or look at your gun?

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #86924 - 10/10/07 11:08 PM

Well said. British double rifles in medium to large nitro chamberings were concieved, designed, and built with only one thing in mind: hunting wild game in the far-flung outposts of Empire! Around the turn of the previous century till the First War, arguably the 'heyday' of the British double, the colonies were principly tropical and sub-tropical Africa and India with their sweltering heat and monsoon summers.

What stocks did every one of those rifles wear?

....oil-finished walnut!


I've had rivers of rain-water sluicing over my doubles in the height of a tropical downpour more times than I can remember, and they're slippery with sweat for hours at a time on the average hunt in my backyard. I wouldn't go 6 or 7 years between strip-downs here though, but admittedly there's never any hint of impending disaster.

I usually strip and clean a double immediately after acquisition, and polish any internals that are not already bright and smooth. Then I lightly coat everything with my secret recipe (50:50 mix of AlCom No.2 waterproof grease and high-grade light machine oil). I sleep pretty soundly at night!

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: Marrakai]
      #86949 - 11/10/07 05:39 AM

auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh my eyes, my eyes excuse me while i have a quadruple walker black

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Re: Anyone for a plastic stocked double rifle? [Re: NitroX]
      #86975 - 11/10/07 06:29 PM

A bit of the differnt subject:

These ranges are great and a lot of fun.

This is the Rhein Main indoor shooting range. It is part of the Pond Academy the company that provides security personnel to guard various installations in Germany. The German Retail Gun Dealers Waffen Reul also makes it available for hunters. In German they call this a Schiess Kino "Shooting Cinema". Bassically you have a 25 meter indoor range with two ceiling mounting projectors. You can shoot live rounds from pistols to big bore double rifles. These project anything from video clips of wild game moving through the forest to robbers leaving a bank. German hunting use this to prepare for driven hunts.

I was at the Pond Academy three weeks ago. We put about 60 rounds through a HEYM over and under Model 26 in 8x57IRS. We fired at wild boar moving through the forest. When you shot a laser detects the bullet hole and records your hit. Depending on the settings the video stops or keeps going for a follow on shot. Following the video sequence the technition and show you where your rounds impacted on your target. Games videos include everything from slow moving deer and wild boar to "flying" wild boar (very fast moving). You can also shot at African Game. They have around 150 video clips.

The advantage for the Rhein Main indoor range is that it is about an hour from Frankfurt and its airport. You can reserve the range 24 hours a day seven days a week. Mr. Nowak is a gun maker and a partner in Waffen Reuel. That is how this side bar developed between synthetic stocks and this shooting range.

These "Shooting Cinemas" are ver popular in Germany. Here is the home page of another one close to Ulm. www.mszu.de

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