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Grizzly
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More Bad news from Zim
      #73328 - 07/03/07 03:39 PM

The latest. If it is bad now, wait until after the harvest when the remaining 500 white owned farms are seized. This may be the last harvest of any consequence for a while..

By ANGUS SHAW, Associated Press Writer
Tue Mar 6, 3:13 PM ET

HARARE, Zimbabwe - The risk of "sudden major violence" is growing in Zimbabwe as it struggles with food shortages, record inflation of some 1,600 percent, repression and corruption, a respected international research group said Tuesday.

The Brussels-based International Crisis Group said unrest could be triggered by rifts in President Robert Mugabe's ruling party over his continued leadership, rising discontent in the armed forces, and "energized" opposition and civil society groups.

"Economic issues, discontent among underpaid police and troops and the increasing willingness of opposition parties and civil society to protest in the streets all increase the risk of sudden major violence," the group said.

Coinciding with the report's release, police officials conceded that protesters had defied a three-month ban on public demonstrations. Thirty emboldened rioters, said to be supporters of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change, attacked a squad of 16 police in the southwestern Harare township of Budiriro on Sunday, state radio reported Tuesday.

The outnumbered police unit fired tear gas to repel the assailants, who blocked streets with rocks and set garbage alight, the radio said. Police spokesman Wayne Bvudzijena told state radio no arrests were made but warned demonstrators against defying the ban on protests.

"The law will catch up with them," he told the radio.

Last week, at least 50 demonstrators demanding political and constitutional reforms were arrested in illegal protests across the country.

The three-month ban on protests came after opposition supporters fought running battles with Harare police trying to stop a rally Feb. 18 where opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai was scheduled to launch his campaign for next year's presidential elections.

The International Crisis Group said growing discontent among senior leaders of the ruling Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front party, police and troops could thwart plans by Mugabe loyalists to move next year's presidential polls to 2010 to give him two more years in power.

The group said powerful critics within the ruling party could block postponement of the elections by forcing Mugabe, 83, to become a non-executive president and appoint a prime minister or by forcing him to retire.

The report added that Mugabe's rivals were increasingly concerned by the crumbling economy and the collapse of their own business operations and favored reopening the country to international aid. Ties with the West were severed in six years of political and economic turmoil after the often-violent seizures of more than 5,000 white-owned commercial farms that began in 2000.


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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Grizzly]
      #73352 - 08/03/07 01:55 AM

It's really a shame what one deranged person, and a few of his cronies have done to such a beautiful country.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #73355 - 08/03/07 02:35 AM

I am frankly surprised the situation did not boil over years ago.

They went from a net food exporter to a food importer, and at a 1600% inflation rate, those imports are unaffordable to most.

Some of the other recent news and comments by higher ups in the Zim government are eye opening.

In response to the issue of Zim's AIDS infection rate, one official remarked that the country was overpopulated anyway. In another case, where an official was faced with the report of people having to eat rats to survive, the official noted that rat was a prized culinary delicacy in Zim.

The days leading up to the French Revolution come to mind.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Grizzly]
      #73367 - 08/03/07 07:38 AM

No doubt, a sad, wry smile is appearing on the countenance of Bob Ruark, wherever his soul may be.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Savuti_One_Shot]
      #73370 - 08/03/07 08:10 AM

It's not over yet!

Never underestimate the ability of an African to endure extreme hardship. And the shona people tend to be very passive anyway. So I would not be too quick to predict civil unrest.


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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: 500grains]
      #73402 - 08/03/07 02:30 PM

Quote:

It's not over yet!

Never underestimate the ability of an African to endure extreme hardship. And the shona people tend to be very passive anyway. So I would not be too quick to predict civil unrest.




Have you heard anything to make you suspect trips for this year are at risk?

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #73408 - 08/03/07 03:12 PM

I have not.

Keep in mind that what we would tolerate and therefore our view of the situation is irrelevant. Our history, and that of our forefathers, by and large, is to take only so much and then throw the bums out, at any cost. We are unique.

Not to get into too much of a political bent, what do you think would happen if the bulk of the Iraqi population said, "I've had enough!" Dito with the Somalis, N. Koreans, Nigerians, Palistineans....Hell the Chinese for that matter.

The whole idea is foriegn to the majority of the populace.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: JPK]
      #73436 - 09/03/07 03:02 AM

Charles, no I have not.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: 500grains]
      #73437 - 09/03/07 03:32 AM

JPK and 500grains -- thank you both.

Now so long as my wife does not see the reports...

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: 500grains]
      #73439 - 09/03/07 04:08 AM

The story above does not seem to have anything new in it which has not been happening for years.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: NitroX]
      #73446 - 09/03/07 05:02 AM

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The story above does not seem to have anything new in it which has not been happening for years.




Sounds about right. I was just curious if there was more fire under the smoke this time.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #73616 - 11/03/07 07:10 PM

As of last Friday, the inflation rate set a new record - 1700+%

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/world/16769002.htm

I understand that it may seem to be the same old thing, but things are getting more desperate. No corn in the graineries, surrounding countries unable to take on more refugees, a drought in at least two of the food producing areas this year.

The situation certainly warrants a watch.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Grizzly]
      #73628 - 12/03/07 12:51 AM

SOS,DD!

It is a crying shame but that's Africa.

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: AspenHill]
      #73632 - 12/03/07 01:21 AM

I see some of the Govt favour re-opening the country to international aid.......... the unfortunate thing is that I'm sure some people and some Governments actually will donate to it.........

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: shakari]
      #74335 - 22/03/07 03:32 PM

BTT -- any views on this year's hunts now? Looks like the guys returning now are faring fine (other than side effects of the drought).

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Re: More Bad news from Zim [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #78668 - 15/05/07 03:49 AM

Back up one more time. Two new conuslar bulletins from the U.S. State Department, a report of "hyperinflation," etc.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1063.html

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3234.html

The word from returning hunters still seems to be business as usual. Am I missing something? Anyone hear differently?

Anyone ask the PH to move them or postpone or decide to sacrifice a deposit?

Not trying to stir something up, just checking the folks here to see what they have heard.

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