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capebuf
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Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt.....
      #69645 - 17/01/07 07:26 AM

Hello everyone im looking for a partner for sept 2007 to hunt cape buffalo, booking though jeff martinell big game consultants who books for pierre van tonder safaris this hunt will take place in tanzania hunting the selous go to www.luxuryhunts.com for all the details and pricing this will be a 7 day hunt for 2x1 thanks for your time..........

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kagmeister
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: capebuf]
      #69671 - 17/01/07 04:32 PM


capbuf,

Wish I could, but already booked for Sept 07. Hunting with a partner adds spice to a hunt and creates a great bond. It doesn't hurt that it slightly lowers the price tag as well.

Are you going to the SCI Show in Reno later this month? That would be a great place to find a partner. Good Luck

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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: capebuf]
      #71703 - 16/02/07 03:30 PM

capebuf,

No need to look anymore... The first liar won't stand a chance, Hank.

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Grizzly
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: luv2safari]
      #71745 - 17/02/07 05:58 AM

I thought Ray Atkinson booked for Pierre?

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luv2safari
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: Grizzly]
      #71768 - 17/02/07 05:47 PM

He does, and booked my side of the 2X1...it works... Ray books all my safaris and has always done right by me. I'm sure Jeff would, also.

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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: luv2safari]
      #71777 - 17/02/07 09:23 PM

Pierre is a good PH. Should be a great safari.

As for Jeff, that is one man I would not book with under any circumstances.

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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: Grizzly]
      #71789 - 18/02/07 01:17 AM

maybe a tad off topic but while you good folks are discussing booking agents, does anyone know what their take of the safari price is? ie are they getting 5, 10, 15% of the safari cost?

I know these guys dont work for free but I often wonder what their take is and what services they render for the dough.

I assume that they get their piece of the pie before sending the payment on to the outfitter/PH.

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Grizzly
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt..... [Re: Double_Trouble]
      #71809 - 18/02/07 05:05 AM

Per a guide in Alaska who used Martinell as a booking agent/outfitter - 20%.

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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt.. [Re: Double_Trouble]
      #71815 - 18/02/07 05:26 AM

Quote:

maybe a tad off topic but while you good folks are discussing booking agents, does anyone know what their take of the safari price is? ie are they getting 5, 10, 15% of the safari cost?

I know these guys dont work for free but I often wonder what their take is and what services they render for the dough.

I assume that they get their piece of the pie before sending the payment on to the outfitter/PH.

DT



DT

I have often thought, if the agent's commission was not built INTO the total price, but instead ADDITIONAL to the usual safari fees, how many people would be willing to pay it?

The normal commission used to be up to 15% of daily rates, but sometimes now it also includes trophy fees and more as well. Plus the inevitable free hunts etc.

I much prefer to deal direct myself with the outfitter. Even if an agent is involved asking questions direct to the outfitter/PH also cuts out a layer of confusion and speeds evething up. I know I asked about several things on a recent hunt, was told THIS, THAT and THAT. Everything has been organised. None of it happened and certainly the PH knew nothing about any of it. So even if it was communicated to a boss of the outfitter, it never got to the PH in the field.

The lesson. Speak direct to your actual PH as much as possible.

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capebuf
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt.. [Re: NitroX]
      #71842 - 18/02/07 10:17 AM

Grizzly can you tell me the problem you had or someone you know had with jeff,thanks for your time.

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Chris
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt.. [Re: capebuf]
      #71849 - 18/02/07 11:46 AM

Grizz, tell my what's up with jeff. I've talked to 3 or 4 who have booked this 2x1 buff hunt and all highly praise jeff.

pm me if you want

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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt.. [Re: capebuf]
      #71856 - 18/02/07 03:03 PM

It was my issue and it was about 6 years ago. And it was not an African hunt.

With Pierre, you are sure to get your money's worth

Mine was an Alaskan brown bear hunt. I won't go into detail on the issues (they were numerous), but Jeff is the type that will turn on you in a heartbeat and will not lift a finger to help. He takes responsibility for nothing.

On my hunt, he made $3000. He as much told me his part was over when I booked. Although he did have the guide fill out a form denying anything and everything. Case closed. I am convinced the only reason he did that was to cover his own ass. No discussion about a future hunt, no refund, no apology.

He's a pretty slick salesman. And that's about it. If he was giving away cape buffalo hunts with free transportation, I would tell him to piss off.

That was my first hunt that I booked through an agent. And it was my LAST hunt in Alaska.

I was surprised to see him booking for Pierre. Pierre has a great reputation, and it puzzled me that he would risk it associating with Jeff.

Just my opinions.

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capebuf
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Re: Looking for a partner for sept. 2007 cape buffalo hunt.. [Re: Grizzly]
      #77768 - 01/05/07 06:39 AM

Hello everyone im still looking for a partner for sept.2007.luv2safari was going to be my partner but due to a serious health issue he can not go,all the best and get well soon to luv2safari,im getting a little nervous as we speak because september is coming very soon,thanks again...

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