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What type of divergence would one expect with a double well regulated at 300 yds?

If right and left barrels are 1" apart at 50 yards would we expect a difference of 6" at 300 yds or 1" apart? Would you need to best regulate at 100 yds for a small bore Double?

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Mack,

Help reduce my ignorance of doubles.

You are saying that Doubles can be regulated-loads developed that allow me to shoot Montana grain field whitetails at ranges from 100 to 400 yards?

I knew doubles could be accurate, but I had always been lead to believe that the cumulative accuracy of both barrels together was only within a very narrow window.

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Yes that is what I'm telling you! I don't think you would want to stand at 400 yds and let me shoot at you with any double I own, thinking I couldn't hit you! Though I don't generally shoot whitetail at any range, I see no reason to shoot them at that distance, when a little hunting will get "YE AS CLOSE AS YE CAN LADDY, THEN GET TEN YARDS CLOSER" QT: JOHN "PONDORO" TAYLOR!

As others here have told you, the flight of the bullets from a well regulated double shooting a proper load, shoot paralell all the way down range, and certainly you wouldn't be shooting at 400 yds with a 577NE with iron sights at a whitetail,but you wouldn't do that with a single barrel rifle chambered the same way either. With a scoped 7X65MMR, however, it would be as easy as anything you would be able to shoot whitetail with haveing a single barrel. I will give you an example, of shooting with a Chapuis double rifle , chambered for 9.3X74R with a scope, fired from a kneeling position hitting a coyote at 271 yds measured, not with one barrel, but with a shot from each barrel! That shot was witnessed by not only me, but by 400 Nitro express, as well. and it was not a fluke, he does it all the time. That same rifle took a kudu at somewhere around 300 yds, and other game in the 200 to 300 yds range on that same safari. He posts here regularly, and is known as 450 No2 Nitro, given name TONY!

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I'd love to see some small doubles in .333Flanged, and 400/350 Rigby. Maybe even a .360 No.2. Should be perfect for North America.

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400NitroExpress has a beautiful little 400/360 double rifle that is as accurate as any iron sighted rifle could be! If you are going to the DRSS get together at Rochelle, he will have it there! There will also be several smaller chamberings there as well.

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Let me try this from one other point of view, and before I say anything let me state I love my double rifle in 7x65R and 9.3x74R. BUT you have to consider the weight of these rifles, dragging them through the woods. Today with the advent of Mountain rifles and Stalking rifles and the manufacturers trying to lighten the load. Why hunt whitetail or any other animal dragging an extra 3 to 5 pounds around?
I recently hunted boar with my 470. I loved it and I had more fun than you could imagine. But at the end of the day my ass was dragging carrying around that gun. I would do it again in a minute but it needs consideration when trekking through the mountains. The double rifle owners here are a breed of gun lovers and do it for the love of it. Manufacturers have to think about the rest of the world.
Just my observation and humble opinion.

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I also hunt most of the time with a double rifle of some kind, but most of my real hunting bolt, and single shot rifles will come in at between 7 1/2, and 9 pounds loaded with a scope attached. That said I simply don't see the sense in a high powered rifle that weighs in a t 7 pounds and under, when loaded, and scoped.

I carry a 9.3X74R Merkel double rifle all day in the mountains of New Mexico, and Colorado, that range in altitude of 6000 to 14000 feet above sea level, and it weighs 8.3 pounds with two rounds in the chambers. I Hunt the mountains of Southeast Alaska for bear with a 470NE Merkel, and 500/450 Westley Richards, and hunt the swampy country of East Texas, and Louisanna, with a 58 cal S/S muzzleloader double, and most times one of my 9.3X74R doubles, in all cases carry all the crap that goes along with hunting for many days out of a back pack,or Canoe,here in North America, and I hunt with a pair of Merkel doubles in Africa, a 470NE, and the trim little 9.3X74R, carrying one or the other all day long every day in 100 deg heat(F), and I'm 70 yrs old. I simply don't see any problem with a rifle that weighs 8 to 10 lbs, for hunting any country.


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Re: Why aren't light caliber doubles more popular?

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Foxfire--
Betcha most american hunters erronously consider all cailber Doubles only fit for short range game and feel that their bolt rifle is much superior to any small cailber Double!!!

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Light caliber doubles are popular in Europe.

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Dao hit the nail on the head. Light and medium caliber double rifles are very common and popular, just not in North America. I would be willing to place a small bet that the type of double rifle being produced in the largest numbers today and for the past 15 or so years would be a O/U in 8x57jrs, or perhaps 9.3x74r. They are very commonly used on driven game hunts in Continental Europe. Also they cost a bit less over there, and bolt action rifles tend to cost a bit more, so the price differences is not as great as it is over on this side of the pond. On most of the driven boar hunts I've been on I would say the number of hunters with double rifles can be as high as 70-80%.

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Edited by Chasseur (23/01/07 12:18 PM)

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