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470evans
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577 2 3/4 BPE
      #67118 - 15/12/06 01:39 PM

Anyone have any experience with one of these? I'm looking at buying what I think is one in nice condition. The gun weighs close to 10lbs so will be light for caliber.

I'm curious as to opinions on the round and any loading experience.

Thanks

Jim

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Marrakai
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: 470evans]
      #67134 - 15/12/06 08:35 PM

Well, if you are willing to extend that to 'nitro-for-black' loadings, the rest of the board here are sick of hearing my opinion!

Marrakai's Opinion!


The .577 x 2 3/4 Light Nitro is a BLAST!

If the barrels are 26 or 28 inch, I recommend starting at ~90 gr Varget beneath the 650gr Woodleigh RNSN (Cat.No. 5 for BP Express), with a magnum primer, and just enough felt wadding or dacron to slightly compress the load. Use a chrono and work up to 1650 fps or thereabouts, looking for barrel regulation. That velocity should be achieved with less than ~8 tons of pressure, well below the 10 tons generated by the BP Express load with only a 570 gr lead bullet.

(all the usual warnings, start 10% below, no liability, etc, etc... )

If you want to shoot lead bullets, you need go no further than Sherman Bell's recommendations in the Spring 2005 DGJ. He brought a Greener hammerless double chambered for the 2 3/4 .577 Express out to Australia, and hunted buffalo with ol'mate Dave L_. He used 570 gr 'long flat nose' lead bullets from an LBT mold, loaded over 70 gr IMR4198 with 8 gr dacron wadding, and they produced 1700 fps MV and 3 1/4 inch groups at 100 yds (with express sights). Worked well on buffalo, too!

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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: Marrakai]
      #67643 - 21/12/06 03:50 PM

I don't have a 577BP so would not hazard a guess on loadings.

BUT, I have a 577 2 3/4 750gr. that is a wonderful rifle. As Marrakai states it is the best DG caliber, ever.

It has the ME of a 500NE. Handles and recoils like a 470NE and has the .585/750 grain bullet. It will kill anything, from any angle.

Rifle: Hollis 577 2 3/4
Bullet: 750 grain Woodleigh
Charge: 125 IMR 4831
Primer: Federal 215
Brass: BELL
Velocity: 1790 fps
Group: 3.5" @ 100 yards

Rifle: Alexander Henry
Bullet: 650 Grain Woodleigh
Charge: 132 Grain IMR 4831
Primer: Federal 215
Brass: BELL
Velocity: 1940 fps
Group: 4" @ 50 yards

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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: mickey]
      #67691 - 22/12/06 12:19 AM

Mickey,

Why not post a photo, my friend!

Curl

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mickey
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: CptCurl]
      #67694 - 22/12/06 12:43 AM

I would love to but my hosting apparently doesn't want to work with NE.com lately.

I'll mail to John and he can post them.







Edited by mickey (24/12/06 04:40 AM)

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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: mickey]
      #67937 - 24/12/06 02:46 AM

Model Name: COGSWELL & HARRISON .577 BPE
Price : $5,995.00
Seller : THE OLD TROOPER
Contact : http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976815110.htm
Description:
.577 2 3/4" Black Powder Express. Rebounding exposed
hammers (safeties removed), back action locks, Jones
under-lever; one standing & 2 folding Express sights; walnut
cheekpiece pistol-grip stock, rubber recoil pad, splinter forend
w/ wedge & tenon. Considerable excellent game scene
engraving, lots of case color, very good to excellent overall
exterior condition (some very minor old pitting on the top of the
barrels). The very good to excellent bores are
Henry’s Rifling with some wear but no pitting. A truly
beatutiful, classic old elephant rifle. Call or e-mail for more
pictures or information.

Click this link to contact seller:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976815110.htm
(There is NO photo for the listing yet.)

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bonanza
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: 470evans]
      #67938 - 24/12/06 02:53 AM

470-Evans,

Let us know how it goes, I might go for it if you don't.

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Charles_Helm
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: bonanza]
      #68049 - 25/12/06 11:43 AM

Isn't there a rule against posting these things around Christmas when we have spent all of our money on our wives???

Looks like fun for someone assuming it is in good shape.

.577....drool


P.S. I actually spent most of my money at the gunsmith!

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armbar
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: Charles_Helm]
      #68053 - 25/12/06 01:18 PM

Sorry about this...I only seem to ask dumb questions. The proof marks show "cordite 90". Is that a BPE? I would assume that that means it is smokeless. Is there some other designation that shows it as BPE? I see the 577BX. It seems to be conflicting information.

As always, thanks in advance.

And Merry Xmas to all!

Armbar.

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mickey
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: armbar]
      #68055 - 25/12/06 02:53 PM

Quote:

Sorry about this...I only seem to ask dumb questions. The proof marks show "cordite 90". Is that a BPE? I would assume that that means it is smokeless. Is there some other designation that shows it as BPE? I see the 577BX. It seems to be conflicting information.

As always, thanks in advance.

And Merry Xmas to all!

Armbar.



The rifle is Nitro proofed. It is not a BP rifle. No information on date of manufacture. This is a rare but not unheard of load. The Kynoch ammo in the picture is also marked 577 750 grain bullet.

It is 577 EX not BX. A little hard to read sometimes.

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bonanza
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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: mickey]
      #68097 - 26/12/06 12:26 PM

It has no firing pins.

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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: bonanza]
      #68103 - 26/12/06 03:27 PM



What doesn't have any firing pins?

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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: mickey]
      #68113 - 27/12/06 10:20 AM

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976815110.htm

Check out picture 3

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Re: 577 2 3/4 BPE [Re: bonanza]
      #68115 - 27/12/06 11:04 AM

Doesn't look like it does it.

Not as noisly that way.

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