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500grains
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Don't shoot until I tell you to.
#65894 - 15/11/06 04:18 AM

Some clients shoot prematurely, before the PH has a chance to determine if the animal is worth taking. And sometimes before the animal can even be positively identified. Hence the PH's instruction, "Don't shoot until I tell you to."

Example 1: Client is on a lion bait. PH tells client to wait until he says to shoot. Lions come in to the bait. PH is glassing the lions. Client shoots a lion cub.

Example 2: Client is hunting leopard. 2 leopard are hitting the same bait. One is a big Tom and one in a junior male. PH and Client sit on the bait until after dark. PH says that he will turn on the spotlight when they hear the leopard feeding, but that the client should not shoot until the PH says to. PH hears a leopard and turns on the spotlight. Client immediately fires and kills a 70 pound male leopard.

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JPK
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Re: Don't shoot until I tell you to. [Re: 500grains]
#65904 - 15/11/06 09:22 AM

Over excited client.

How 'bout when the hunter is waiting for the go ahead and the opportunity passes and the PH says, "Why the heck didn't you shoot?" I'm sure that has happened more than a few times too.

JPK

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NitroX
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Re: Don't shoot until I tell you to. [Re: JPK]
#65909 - 15/11/06 07:53 PM

Some guys get too excited I guess. As long as they are prepared to pay for their own actions and not blame the PH I guess.

Sometimes the animal is too small as mentioned, or another animal is behind and a complete penetration might hit another animal.

Good advice is to wait for the all clear to shoot.

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JPK is right too. I have had a PH complain about why I didn't shoot at a record klipspringer. The reason - a tree trunk blocked its chest and all I could see was its head and rear end. He then said I should have shot it in the rear end! Sometimes a client can't win.

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NitroX
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Re: Don't shoot until I tell you to. [Re: NitroX]
#65911 - 15/11/06 08:05 PM

Talking about shooting too soon.

A PH I used once told me a story about how they were hunting lion, and when a lion jumped out, the client fired too soon.

The problem?

He was still in line with the tracker and PH in front of him, and his shot blew the hat off the PH and left a bullet path "crease" in the top of the PHs scalp!

A lucky day for that PH.

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Re: Don't shoot until I tell you to. [Re: NitroX]
#65915 - 15/11/06 09:50 PM

On my last and only hunting trip to Africa my friend and I were tracking fallow deer in the Natal province when we spotted a good head.My friend got all excited and got ready to shoot.Just as he was about to do so the PH told him to wait but my friend,although he heard the PH did not listen and let go.The result,two dead fallow dear,one behind the other and an extra bill for $650.Only consolation was that both were male although one was a small one.

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