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Fergus_Bailey
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Laminated Walnut
      #64831 - 28/10/06 02:34 PM

I went to visit Geoff Slee to work out a stock pattern for some rifles I am having made. While I was there, Geoff showed me some new laminated walnut blanks he has available. Even though these won’t have the classic look of a solid walnut stock and will likely not appeal to the purists, I they will still look pretty good. They should give me the benefit of a pretty strong and stable stock and will also take checkering like walnut.

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mikeh416Rigby
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Re: Laminated Walnut [Re: Fergus_Bailey]
      #64838 - 28/10/06 10:30 PM

Fergus, I think you're headed in the right direction with the laminated stock you describe. It's hard to beat them for stability, and still keep some of the asthetics of a wood stock. I have one custom rifle in 375 Ackley that was put together by Serengetti Stockworks here in the states. They use much larger slabs of lamination than most laminated stock makers - only 5 pieces per stock. I'll email you a photo of mine.

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Re: Laminated Walnut [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #64845 - 29/10/06 04:04 AM

I had a .375 H&H put up here in TX by a very well known smith...I decided to use his laminated stock for the project..turned out beautifully, rifle shot well under .5 MOA, but about 400 rounds into the project there was a hairline crack at the back of the tang...really not much to get excited about, but I called the smith and explained what had happened...his response was to put some super glue in the crack and buff off what oozed out of the crack...I would have expected neither of those things from any competent smith, either the tang crack or the response on handling the problem...

The rifle now resides in a McMillian stock..that will be my choice on any future projects...and yes, there were two cross bolts and a barrel lug that were all glassed into the stock...


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DUGABOY1
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Re: Laminated Walnut [Re: Tightloop]
      #64851 - 29/10/06 06:31 AM

In reply to:

but about 400 rounds into the project there was a hairline crack at the back of the tang...really not much to get excited about, but I called the smith and explained what had happened...his response was to put some super glue in the crack and buff off what oozed out of the crack...I would have expected neither of those things from any competent smith, either the tang crack or the response on handling the problem...





If that was a Mauser, or Mauser clone action, sounds like the stock maker failed to releave the wood dirrectly behind the tang, or the laminations are coming apart. Any stock maker worth his salt knows a stock shouldn't fit too tight in that area, especially in a heavy recoiling rifle, in a Mauser action, and some others as well ! However, if the lamination is seperateing he needs to make you whole on that stock! His fix is nothing more than a band-aid! I'd be interested in knowing who this stock maker is! PM if you don't want to make it public!

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Tightloop
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Re: Laminated Walnut [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #64853 - 29/10/06 07:40 AM

Bill Wiseman in Bryan, Tx is the smith..barrels are great, but this stock job wasn't so good...kind of left a bad taste in my mouth..

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Fergus_Bailey
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Re: Laminated Walnut [Re: mikeh416Rigby]
      #64854 - 29/10/06 08:55 AM

Mike

Thanks for the photo. The rifle came up looking good. I had been considering Serengeti because I didn’t think I could get any other walnut laminates, especially not locally. It was a nice surprise to find Geoff is just starting to offer these. They are made in Australia from Australian grown walnut. The blanks I saw were 10 ply laminates. For me, they offer very good value compared to what Serengeti quoted for a stock build.

As I have several Zastavas and a Hein action, all in left hand, there are not a lot of stock options available in fibreglass. I want the wood look though, so the laminates should work well. I think they would only be second-best to synthetic in the very wettest of climates


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