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hoppdoc
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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: Savuti_One_Shot]
      #84283 - 20/08/07 04:25 AM

Got my custom 416 Rigby(on a reworked BRNO 602 action) from a fellow who got whacked and bit by that rifle--

I like it!!

It shoots great!!


Let a 458 Ruger #1 get away from me for $$peanuts years ago 'cause of ?recoil concerns and lack of a real need for the rifle--My mistake!!

If someone realizes his limitations on a Big Bore and wants your money- buy that gun!!!

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: hoppdoc]
      #85447 - 11/09/07 10:29 PM

The most I've ever handled is with my CZ American Safari 458 Lott shooting 550gr bullets at 2210 FPS

That gave me 84 Ft LB of recoil. Everything came out OK I mean the primer hole, Extraction, and the

case were Fine. I prepared for the recoil mentally and it wasn't to bad.

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: SAFARIKID]
      #87094 - 14/10/07 09:17 AM

Well, I gave up on the great big stuff when I shot an elephant in 1998 in Botswana. I was using a Searcy Underlever in .577 Nitro and it doubled on me. Now I'm a little guy - almost 300 lbs - and that experience walked me back a few steps. The first shot was a head/brain shot and the bull went down like the wires were cut. The second shot may still be in the air for all I know!

Ps. I missed the brain by less than one inch. Don't ever, ever believe the old tales that a .577 in the head will stun a bull for up to 15 minutes. He stood back up in less than 20 seconds! Probably would have wandered off thinking; "Man, I gotta stop eating that Marula stuff. Must have been a hell of a party." 'Course my PH's .470 took instant care of that problem.

I'm going after Cape Buffalo in April 2008 and am going to take something much lighter.

Just purchased a Blaser S2 Double in .470 Nitro.

Lighter, right?

Remind me to tell you the story about the stink bull giraffe and my S & W 500 Magnum - great fun!

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: poprivit]
      #87832 - 26/10/07 12:23 PM

A 7.2lbs SxS shotgun with 3" slugs both barrels from a bench. That was a little above my tolerance. No bruises, it just hurt. Everything else, including 458 lott have been all right.

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: blackberry9]
      #87834 - 26/10/07 12:34 PM

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Hallo,

my heaviest gun-cal. ist the 10,75x68. The rifleweight is 8.16 lbs. without scope. The buillet velocity is 2230ft./sec.
With the limbsaver-recoilpat the recoil is not to bad.
From the recoilvelocity it is compareable with my Weatherby Mk.V in .340 Wby.Mag. with the 200gr. Nosler Ballistic-Tip which runs arround 2980ft./sec. The feeled kick from the 10.75Mauser isnīt so strong like that from the Weatherby in cause of the slower buillet and the lower pressure.
My 9x57Mauser with 6.4lbs weight and a steel-stockpat kicks worser than the bouth upon.
The worsest recoil has my Lee-Enfield No.5Mk.I "Jungle-carbine" in .303British. Itīs real no plessure to shoot with it more than five rounds.

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Manolito



I know EXACTLY what you mean when it comes to that jungle carbine in .303 British. I have the same gun made in 1914 and it is no fun. About 20 rounds with that little bastard and it feels like someone has been pounding on my shoulder with a hammer. The .375 H&H is a cup of tea compared to that Enfield carbine.

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: Elephant_Man]
      #87843 - 26/10/07 06:18 PM

Well, OK.....

1914 is a little early for a JC. Try 1944.
Maybe the date-stamp on yours is a little worn....

The Lee Enfield rifles were all pigs with the dog-leg butt-stock, although the 'one-size-fits-all' concept was clearly a winner during 2 world wars.
Put a high-comb stock on them though, as Parker Hale and many others did for decades, and you change the character of the rifle completely. The .303 is pure pleasure to shoot when stocked as a classic British sporter.

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: Marrakai]
      #87856 - 27/10/07 12:52 AM

On my three African hunts, my most used dangerous game rifle was my P-14 Enfield .505 SRE, a wildcat based on a shortened .460 Weatherby case, 570 grain bullet at 2150. The rifle weighs in at 8.75 pounds. You can see a picture of it (and me) as we looked about 35 years ago at http://www.frappr.com/?a=myphotos&id=3823381.

At the time, it was about the limit of what I could bear shooting at paper. Shooting at game, I never noticed it. The other rifle pictured was my Krieghoff Teck O/U double rifle with interchangeable barrels in .458 Winchester Magnum and .375 H&H. It accounted for the rest of my DG experience.

Since then, I have built a .577 VSRE based on a .577NE case, shortened and modified to rimless, with a .416 Rigby size rebated rim. It shoots a 750 grain bullet at 2050, and in a 13 pound rifle (post 64 Model 70) causes me to execute a little two step dance each time I fire it. However, the felt recoil is less than that of the .505. I don't think I would notice it shooting at game.

The most unpleasant gun I remember shooting was a Remington 760 Gamemaster pump in .30-'06, which I friend asked me to sight in for him. The stock design was atrocious.

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: Marrakai]
      #87862 - 27/10/07 03:01 AM

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Well, OK.....

1914 is a little early for a JC. Try 1944.
Maybe the date-stamp on yours is a little worn....



Yeah you know thats what I thought, but the stamp definitely says 1914. I can post a pic if it would make you feel better. Maybe an earlier piece ws used to make the gun at a later date?

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Marrakai
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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: Elephant_Man]
      #87875 - 27/10/07 09:56 AM

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I can post a pic if it would make you feel better.


Most pics of nice or interesting rifles make me feel better, EM, so go ahead by all means.

At the very least, we will then see if that fake JC of yours is built on a No.1 or a No.4 action!


Seriously though, only the No.1 action could be correctly stamped 1914. The No.4 action (or No.5 on the JC) has the action-bridge with rear peep-sight, and was developed during the 1930s. The very first appearance of any Lee Enfield bridge-action was on the No.1 Mk.IV troop trials rifle of 1926. Nothing genuinely stamped 1914 could possibly be passed off as a Jungle Carbine.

Photos please!

...perhaps with a new post in the Classic Rifles forum- we're hijacking this thread a little.

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Re: What's your RECOIL TOLERANCE??? [Re: Marrakai]
      #89367 - 20/11/07 05:58 PM

Ha you are right my man. I just took a closer look at the action on that jungle carbine and it was made in 1945. The 4 is very worn down and it took quite a big of staring to figure out that the 4 was not a 1. But yep, you were right on.

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