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AdamTayler
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Stone sheep hunt
      #62975 - 24/09/06 06:01 PM

I was in the bush for Aug 1 (opening day) for my first sheep hunt. Here are a couple of pics to get things warmed up.

Watch out for muskeg



Heading out from sheep camp @ 4700'



No, those are goats



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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #62986 - 25/09/06 04:22 AM

I was supposed to go up to infamous Colt Lake at the beginning of Sept but my work schedule changed and I had to either go at the beginning of August or late September. I was going to go by myself but my friend George said he would come along as well and we would go to a place he had hunted before.

July 27 I flew up to Ft. St. John where George picked me up. The following day we loaded the horses and headed north on the Alaska Hwy. B.C was going through a heat wave at the time and I hoped it would cool off a little for the hunt. Up by Pink Mountain it started to rain; not really what I had in mind. When we get to our turn off, the road is slick and we have to put the truck in 4WD. At the trailhead we unloaded and highlined the horses and set up camp in the horse trailer. The weather is overcast with periods of rain.

Overcast with low cloud and rain



July 29 Woke up to a red sky but at least it was not raining. We headed out with wet weather gear on because we knew it was going to hit us eventually and we were right. We rode up a drainage, followed a ridge where we spooked some caribou, and dropped down to the other side. We missed our target by about 1/2 km and had to head through a little bit of muskeg to make our mark. We followed the "trail" which had not been used in a while, clearing deadfall and hitting the occasional spot of muskeg. We had planned to make camp at the south end of a lake as George knew of a spring there, but we could not find it and the little creek draining to the lake was dry. It was decided to travel to the north end of the lake as there was better pasture there for the horses. The going was good until we had to cross a stream that had muskeg on both sides. We took the horses across one at a time and they sunk to their kness in a couple of spots, lunging to get out. We did not loose a load though.

Up on the ridge



The next day we let the horses rest, but we still took the saddle horses for a scouting trip of the trail to the sheep camp. There was only two small spots of muskeg to cross and one could be avoided if we circled up and around. We found an old tattered fly camp hidden in the trees not far from where we were going to set up. There was a nice spring for water 50 yards from camp. We returned to the lake and spent another night there.

North end of the lake looking south



July 31 we slept in and headed out at 10:00, leaving a small cache of gear and food. The trip was uneventful and we had nice weather to travel and set camp. That evening we spot 2 caribou on the skyline. They look huge backlit like that. Tomorrow is opening day. I can pull the trigger on either a full curl (horn tip breaks the bridge of the nose) or a mature ram (over eight years old found by counting annuli or age rings on the horn).

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #62989 - 25/09/06 05:35 AM


Adam

Can you explain what muskeg is.

Thanks

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: 500Nitro]
      #62990 - 25/09/06 06:25 AM

Hi Nigel. Here's a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskeg

A horse with northern mountain experience can usually tell if where he is about to step is muskeg. If you sink a horse in it, you have to wait until he is stops flailing, unpack him, and then get him out. Crossing lots of muskeg can take a long time, especially with a pack train, and you do your best not to cross it on the way out if possible. On one trip, George had to jump in with the horse and lift each front leg out as there was a branch stuck across the horses chest preventing it from moving at all. It is not a fun time.

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #62991 - 25/09/06 06:38 AM


Thanks.

Not something you want to get caught in as the sun is going down !!!

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: 500Nitro]
      #63007 - 25/09/06 11:14 AM

Will wear you out after walking in skeg for a few hours. Tussocks will do the same.

Great pictures, Adam.


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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: DPhillips]
      #63011 - 25/09/06 12:04 PM


DPhillips

I agree re tussocks - in fact anything you have to pick your feet UP will wear your out faster.

In the NT, you get tussocks around the flood plains + the Buffalo =can churn up the ground so you have to watch where you step either way.

Walk 10 - 20 in a day and you know it by the time you are back in camp.

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: 500Nitro]
      #63013 - 25/09/06 02:52 PM

Aug 1 woke up at 2 am to untangle a horse and catch another. It's hard to get back to sleep as China is eating just ouside the tent. Up at 5:30 to water the horses, then saddled up and hit the trail at 7:30. Four caribou are spotted and we turn our heads 120 degrees and there are two dozen ewes, lambs, and banana rams. We made a stalk anyway just in case there happened to be a legal ram hanging on the fringe. We get up and around them to glass the next range over and find two other bands numbering 7 & 9 so the spotting scope comes out and there is one in the farthest group, which is a long way off, that may be legal. Even with the spotting scope it is hard to tell. Rain moves in, a tarp comes out and I have a cat nap while the weather passes. There is no time to make a stalk on the far group so we head back to camp and the rain starts again and low cloud moves in. I'm tired.

Skylined



Aug 2 Got up at 6:30 to a light drizzle that turned into a heavy drizzle for an hour and a half. It stopped and we set out on foot at 9:30 up one drainage to the east. I found a grizzly claw but lost it on top when I took my camera out of my bag. We came across the same large band of ewes and lambs, as well as another band of six. It was cool and overcast but the wind chilled the hands. We explored a little more and found some beds out on a gnarly finger, with a comanding view and a couple of escape routes. This place is christened "Monarch Point". The wind is gusting enough to push us around a little and a storm is moving in fast. Small wet flakes start falling and cloud moves in restricting visibility. We head back to camp but come face to face with a big hairy beast up top. What the hell is this thing doing in sheep country? We are not even close to where there is a Limited Entry season for them. If this thing is this far north, then maybe there should be more tags given out.

Bloody Bison!



We head back down the hill to find the old tattered fly camp is inhabited! Two hunters from the coast have walked in, making a couple of caches along the way. Luckily no one got their knickers in a twist and we got along well. Aaron has been here before and is looking for something special while Curtis has a bow and is looking for his first ram. We shared info on the area, ate dinner and were swapping lies around the camp fire when all the horses turned and stared into the bush with their ears up and forward. We hear a branch snap as we grab our rifles and flashlights, but whatever was there is now gone. We have a game plan now to help each other out. Tomorrow Aaron and Curtis will pack up the mountain and head west while we go east. If they are not back in four days we will go looking for them. Aaron recommends the next drainage over. I go to sleep with a good feeling.

Ewes and lambs



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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #63066 - 26/09/06 08:49 AM

Adam,

Fantastic photos and a great story Now, are you going to leave us dangling over the fire to roast slowly ,or? This story must have a happy end

Cheers
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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: Yochanan]
      #63067 - 26/09/06 09:08 AM


I just love that photo of the Bull in the rain - it's got real feeling to it and shows what the story is all about.

Keep it coming - it is great.

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #63092 - 26/09/06 08:31 PM

Adam,

Great story and pictures. Reminds me of when I used to live in Alaska!

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: Chasseur]
      #63262 - 01/10/06 03:41 AM

On top of the world



Aug 3: woke up at 5:30, saddled the horses at 9:00 and left camp heading for the next valley over. We stopped to glass as it started to open up. RAMS! It was a small band but there were a couple in there that were legal so we took out the spotting scope for a closer look. We decided on how we were going to make our stalk, tied up the horses and headed up the mountain. Half way up we stopped to make sure the rams were still in the same spot, so I opened my pack to make sure the video camera would be ready. I stuffed the other contents back in the bag but failed to notice that my digital camera had rolled down the hill and into some bushes. The rams had bedded and we continued up the mountain, which got steeper and my pack got heavier. At one point I was ready to drop the pack and just carry on with my rifle. We finally got where we wanted to be elevation wise (almost the top), then headed up the valley. The closest we could get was 138 yards, so I started the video camera, handed it to George, then got the Brno rested. The ram was bedded facing away from me and slightly quartering away. I asked George if he had the sheep framed in the flip out view finder and he confirmed. I settled in and set the trigger. To rifle went off and I heard the "THWACK" of the Hornady 139 gr hitting home. The ram stayed down but then suddenly stumbed up and turned towards me, not offering a shot. He then staggered over the hill and started to roll and cartwheel at least 150 yards down into a rocky chute which was fed by a spring. We made our way down to the ram, as one of his buddies stuck around and watched. All right, picture time. Where the hell is my camera? I'm pissed off. We take some video and hopefully I can take an image from one of the frames. We carefully cape and debone the ram on a small landing, then I pack out the meat, cape and head while George takes everything else. It is a slow go but we safely reached the bottom and the horses. Then it started to hail. Since we had not taken a pack horse, my pack was cinched into the saddle, and I led the horse back to camp, but lost my walking sticks that were on my pack on the way. At camp the head and cape goes into a game bag and I pull it up into a tree. Hopefully we will not get any unwanted visitors tonight. The meat is put into a pack box and we put it into the creek. I cut the tenderloin into medallions and fry it up with butter, pepper and garlic salt. It is suprisingly tender and tastes fantastic. I get to eat the whole thing as George is a vegitarian (he gives all his meat away). I get out the video camera to watch the footage and George, who had not been wearing his glasses, filmed the bench beside the one the rams were on. I laugh and give him a hard time. George spots a black wolf running up a ridge, and he is big and fast; probably on the lookout for sheep and caribou. Sleep comes easy.

Pics with my back up camera



Aug 4: Had a good sleep in. I got up and there was quite a bit of frost outside. We stayed in camp the whole day. I finished caping the head, turned the ears, lips, and nose. The big excitement of the day was when a 1200 lbs bison walked into camp without being heard. I was fleshing the cape, and when I turned to throw the bits of meat into the fire, there on the other side of the fire at 20' stood a bison bull staring at me. George was basking in the sun another 20' from me (without his glasses) and when I wispered his name and he looked up, all he saw was a big, dark, hairy thing. He jumped pretty good! The bull trotted off through the horses. We are expecting the other guys back in a day or two.

Close up



Aug 5: Another morning of frost. We were about to head out on foot at 9:00 when Aaron walked into camp. Curtis had shot a ram the previous day but they had to spend the night on the mountain. He did not get it with his bow though, but this country is not that suited for bow hunting. I help Curtis turn his cape and we put his meat into another packbox. George and Aaron will head out tomorrow with the horses.


More bison



Aug 6: The guys head out while Curtis and I look after the horses and cut firewood. After lunch we highline the horses and head out to find my camera. We go up and over instead of around, and find a beautifal bowl and a caribou. I get to where I took my shot, and then back track to where I thought we had stopped to check on the rams. There's my camera. We head down and walk the trail back to camp and Curtis finds one of the walking sticks. The foam grips had been gnawed on but were still alright. We get back to camp and an hour later George and Aaron show up. They had found some legal rams but nothing special. They had left the horses ground tied and hobbled on top of the mountain while they had glassed, but when they returned, the horses were gone. They finally caught up with them about 1.5 km from camp. That night we had a backstrap bbq'ed over the coals and the clear sky started to dance with the northern lights.

Aug 7: G & A leave again to go up the valley where I had taken my ram. C & I lounge and nap back at camp. The guys return without seeing anything. It is decided to head out tomorrow.

Packed up



Aug 8: We break camp and head out for the lake to pick up our caches of goods. When we get there, we spot a band of goats skylined. We continue and walk out about 30 km in eleven hours. I'm tired but I had a great trip. I hope to go back there for moose but I know this fall is out of the question.

Heading out



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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #63270 - 01/10/06 07:02 AM

Adam,

Congratulations to a superb trophy!! A Great and happy end of a hard hunt with fantastic scenery, must admit I envy you a bit

How shall you get it mounted, head, full body or shoulder?

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #63276 - 01/10/06 11:26 AM

Adam,

That's a great account of your hunt. Thanks for taking the time and effort to put it to words and photos. I'm really envious. Never have hunted sheep.

Met up with Mickey in NY at the Vintagers. We had a good visit and mentioned you a few times. Maybe your ears were burning.

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #63329 - 02/10/06 09:34 AM

Wow! Congratulations, Adam. Fine ram, good country to hunt in and some interesting critters to share the days with.



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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #63330 - 02/10/06 09:43 AM

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I cut the tenderloin into medallions and fry it up with butter, pepper and garlic salt. It is suprisingly tender and tastes fantastic. I get to eat the whole thing as George is a vegitarian (he gives all his meat away).



I'll never know how George could remain a vegitarian while you feasted on the fresh sheep meat. My goodness! If Stone sheep taste anything like Dall sheep (I don't see why they wouldn't), that is some of the finest eatin' on the planet.

I think you guys cheated using horses, though! Guess you and your partners are just smarter than I am.


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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: Chasseur]
      #63408 - 03/10/06 09:18 AM

Done Adam.Next year its my turn.

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #64455 - 23/10/06 05:30 AM

Awsome!

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #64820 - 28/10/06 08:23 AM

Great report and photos Adam!

And the scenery is really beautiful up there, except for that nasty Sasquatch in the middle of the picture

When it comes to the muskeg, am I understanding correctly that it doesn't look like what we would call a moor, yet actually is kind of a moor that's "camouflaged" with grass?


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The meat is put into a pack box and we put it into the creek.




I saw the different coloured pack boxes hanging on the sides of the horses. Are they air/water tight?


I've never hunted sheep or goats in the mountains, but have a serious craving to do so. I'll have to do something about it when my ankle's mended in a couple of years.


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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: EricD]
      #64889 - 30/10/06 02:46 PM

Adam

I just saw this. Great story. Graet hunt.

I'll give you a call on Thursday when I'm in Van. I'm reading a good book about Pitt Lake and the 'Treasure'.

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: mickey]
      #65120 - 02/11/06 03:08 PM

Johan

I am going to do a shoulder mount with his head slightly turned so the longer horn is to the inside.

Curl

The price of a stone sheep hunt here for non residents is comparable to an expremely nice used British double. Goat on the other hand is quite cheaper and can be combined with other species like moose, caribou, elk, etc. The experience is something else so come on up. I hope you enjoyed the Vintagers. Was that 400 Purdey there?

DPhillips

I'll tell you how the two compare when I get my Dall.

Kechika

How many people believe you when you tell them you passed on a legal Stone on your second sheep hunt and your would be first ram?

ErikD

I resemble that remark! The pack boxes have a lip on the lid so rain stays out but they are not like Pelican cases so water could get in if fully submerged. I believe muskeg is like a moor/bog; imagine wet peat moss with a sloppy consistency topped with a "crust" of grass/bush. You step on the bushes and at the bases of trees as there is more support there. Make sure your footware is waterproof as the muskeg is like a wet sponge. When your ankle gets better, come on over. There is a rumor of a 186 that came out this year so there are still some big ones to be had.

Mickey

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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: AdamTayler]
      #65148 - 02/11/06 08:41 PM

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When your ankle gets better, come on over.




Beware Adam! I might just do that!

However, what you wrote below scares me. So I think you'll have to adopt me as your long lost brother that was seperated from you at birth, and will now be moving in with you.

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The price of a stone sheep hunt here for non residents is comparable to an expremely nice used British double.






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Re: Stone sheep hunt [Re: EricD]
      #65422 - 07/11/06 12:08 PM

When people hear that I passed on legal rams they think I.m nuts.LOLBut I like to set high standards for the Game I hunt....unlike the women I chase.I will say that I'm somewhat jealous with you being the first of us to get one.Just wait till next August 170 or bigger...

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