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bulldog563
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Talk about cast!!!
      #61782 - 28/08/06 12:07 AM

Was just cruising through the Westley Richards Gun Room and saw a Watson Bros .318 WR listed at just under 3K. Looked through the pics and the last one explains the price.



You guys ever seen a rifle with this much cast? Is there a reason why someone would need a rifle like this?

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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: bulldog563]
      #61784 - 28/08/06 12:34 AM

Yes, blind in right eye, right handed shooter.

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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: bulldog563]
      #61795 - 28/08/06 03:07 AM

I saw that one too. My guess would be right-handed, left eye dominant, couldn't/wouldn't pay for a complete left hand gun. Maybe cheaper to do the stokc than whole left handed gun and learning to shoot left handed. Definately unique.

Louis

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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: Bloodnativ]
      #61821 - 28/08/06 01:44 PM

Cross-over stocks are not uncommon on shotguns, where most shooters keep both eyes open to successfully hit flying/moving targets. If there is no clear eye-dominance, or the left-eye is dominant but the shooter 'right-handed', then the cross-over stock is a big advantage.

On a rifle though, injury to the right eye is about the only explanation, as DD says. If the left-eye was dominant, it could simply be closed, or at the very least 'squinted', to change dominance back to the right eye to align the sights on a straight-stocked rifle.

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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: Marrakai]
      #61822 - 28/08/06 02:04 PM


I am left eye dominant but right handed.

I close one eye but also use straight stocked guns
or guns with a left cast and they work fine for me.

However my guns often don't fit other people
which can be an advantage !!!

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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: bulldog563]
      #63891 - 12/10/06 01:51 AM

Greener and others, of course, made many guns case off like this W.R. In the days of the early 1900's and prior, many shooters gained damage to their right eye through shooting accidents due mostly to the fairly unstable nitro powders of the day, as explained by Greener. The cast-off stocks were for those shooters who resisted in changing to left hand shooting. It allowed use of the left eye while shooting right handed.
: I have a friend, whose platoon took an 81mm mortar round in V.Nam. He lost use of his right eye and changed to being left handed. This wasn't too difficult for rifle shooting, but try it for an instinctive archer. Changing to left handed was a major jump for him but he perserverred and is not a credible left handed recurve shooter.
: The sweeping cast-off of the pictured W.R. is only one form of these left-eye, right handed stocks. Another, made a quick bend to the right then left running straight back to the butt with no angle to the buttstoock. Another was a normal right-handed stock, but had sight extensions to the left to allow use of the left eye.

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bulldog563
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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: DarylS]
      #64590 - 24/10/06 06:31 PM

Interesting... Do you have any photos of the other techniques?

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Re: Talk about cast!!! [Re: bulldog563]
      #65331 - 05/11/06 12:22 PM

This from an old J&W Tolley catalog...




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