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DDouble
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Which 9.3mm is a better choice???
      #55364 - 21/04/06 08:32 AM

I want a plain and effective "working gun" to hunt water buffalo and hogs. It would be nice if this one gun could be used to shoot some ducks too!

There is a Rizzini O/U that comes with a 9.3x74R and a 20 gauge barrel.

There is also a Chapuis 9.3x74R that can come with a shotgun barrel too.

The Rizzini is much cheaper, however the Chapuis is a S/S. Which would you pick?

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: DDouble]
      #55369 - 21/04/06 10:01 AM

In reply to:

The Rizzini is much cheaper, however the Chapuis is a S/S. Which would you pick?





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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: DDouble]
      #55370 - 21/04/06 10:18 AM

The O/U Rizzinis I've seen were good guns. I have a Chapuis and like it alot.

It really depends on how imporant having the SxS is to you. I'd go with a SxS because that's just me, but there is nothing wrong with a double barrel set Rizzini!

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: Chasseur]
      #55371 - 21/04/06 10:26 AM

Despite my tounge-in-cheek response above, NitroX had quite a bit of fun with his O/U 9.3 not too long ago. I would still vote SxS for me personally...unless maybe the difference in price is going to let you take the rifle for a memorable hunt.

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: DDouble]
      #55374 - 21/04/06 11:10 AM

I prefer side-by-side rifles and shotguns, but I do own a nice O/U rifle. Go with what you like better. If you change your mind, sell it and get another. They do transfer, you know!

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: CptCurl]
      #55569 - 24/04/06 02:36 AM

Thanks for inputs. I certainly like the S/S rifles better because reloading is so much faster in a dangerous confrontation with buffalo. Specially when you are a bit undergunned (and so is the 9.3 for buff and ele).

The problem with the Chapuis is that the SS .470 or .416 are so heavy (4.9kgs) and not a gun to hunt buff on foot. It may work for Land Rover hunting, but I would prefer go fishing than driving a car or handing my weapon to a paying help (gunbearer). I like, pardon, I love to walk 30kms in a day. And I wouldn't love it the same carrying a 4.9kg gun.

It would be great to be able to find a reasonably priced .400 3" (as was asked in the other thread).

Regarding the effects of drugs, I absolutely love my O/U Perazzi when I shoot olympyc clays. But I see the point with rifles.

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: DDouble]
      #55589 - 24/04/06 10:48 AM

If we get serious and face facts, the 9,3X74R is not a DG round, and it makes little difference whether you have a SXS or O/U in that caliber. I love my 9,3X74Rs, but I'm using heavier for the Mahenge North buffalo hunt in late August. I will have along a BBF in 12ga 3" over 9,3X74R for birds and PG, however

I used a 9,3X74R in a drilling several years ago to take a buffalo for a guy who had Hops Flue the whole hunt and never made it very far out of camp. We were all glad he didn't try taking his buffalo. I took it for him, at his request, while Francolin hunting with the drilling. It sure did nothing to convince me that a 9,3X74R is a vaible choice for buffalo.

In a 9,3X74R get what you like and have fun with it. I have preferred my Valmet 412 to my pedigree Lajot o/u and to a Merkel 140 I had some years ago. The Valmet O/U shot rings around the other two guns and is easy to regulate to different loads.

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: luv2safari]
      #55592 - 24/04/06 11:14 AM

Luv, I totally agree with you regarding the 9.3 being a small caliber for DG.

However, I have shot 5 buffalo with a 30-06 (not because I chose, but because it was the only gun in these ranches) and they all died pretty fast. Including one bull I stopped when charging my friend who wonded it with a .375H&H. The first shot around 20yds did very little, but I was lucky to break his shoulder with my second shot at 10yds.

After many tries I have shot only one buff (amazon water buff around 900kgs) with a 70# recurve with 900 grain arrows (got a complete pass through). That is really dangerous! Bowhunting buff I was charged up a tree by a cow and I wished I had a .400 or even a .470.

Karamojo Bell writtes that in all his life in the bush, despite the hundreds of buff he shot with .256 and 7mms, he never in his life saw a buffalo charge!

But I will try to follow the advice to look for a larger rifle, specially because I indend on hunting ele.

But why a DR .400 has to be worth 2, 3 or even 5 times more cash if they are of similar quality of a 9.3???

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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: DDouble]
      #55637 - 25/04/06 01:43 AM

I would prefer a good side-by-side in 9.3x74R but the Tikka was available at such a good price and the ease of setting it up with different loads is a BIG plus.

I also think the 9.3mm lends itself to a under-and-over as the U/O double is more often European and the 9.3mm fits the European image to my mind at least.

I want one of every type!

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I will probably be taking my .450 S/S plus the 9.3mm in August for my ele hunt. Taking along a shotgun set of barrels too in case I have free days with nothing else to do!



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Re: Which 9.3mm is a better choice??? [Re: NitroX]
      #55667 - 25/04/06 09:38 AM

The over and unders in 9,3 are wonderful they have long been my choice for very fast shooting. They lend themselves to faster reloads in a drive shoot too. Are you planning to scop ethe rifle? My vote would be for a Blaser 97 or the 97 Klassik. As for the shotgun aspect I would get a set of combination barrels in .20 ga and 9,3.

Aleko

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