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MopaneMike
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I was just thinking about one of these
      #53780 - 01/04/06 03:06 PM

Low and behold.. Sha-Zam... No it's true.. I was just thinking how I've yet to see a .375 H&H flanged, now mind you these thoughts were going through my head while looking at some neat little 9.3X74 O/U Merkal's 1933 and 1993 vintage.. I was thinking what handy little gems they would be when the .375 question poped into my head.. personaly, my gut feeling is this rifle is about 2K over priced.. But based on my very limited experiance, what do you guy's think?.. Opinions?

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/hamburg/fine_rifle/468692_zanardini_ham.jsp

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #53782 - 01/04/06 03:17 PM

I know nothing of Zanardini but it looks quit nice. Not much difference than a 9.3 but I would like to have one.

If you think it is too much than make an offer.

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: mickey]
      #53788 - 01/04/06 04:09 PM

Hey, I'm headed to that Cabela's (about 1/2 hour from me) tomorrow or Monday. I'll look it over and report back.

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #53790 - 01/04/06 04:23 PM


MopaneMike

Why do you "think" this rifle is about 2K over priced ?

I haven't seen a 375 Flanged Magnum under 15k in the US
for years and they seem to be wanted by everyone.

It also looks quite a nice rifle - reinforced action (a must for this cartridge),
nice game scne engraving, colour case hardening,, Nice 24" barrels and Ejector to boot.

In looking at the photos, subject to bore condition, I would say it
looks good value for someone who wants a 375 Fl Mag.

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MopaneMike
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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: 500Nitro]
      #53795 - 01/04/06 07:05 PM

500Nitro, as mentioned I was going by more gut feeling than based on my knowledge, which I freely admit I have very little in DR's, but I'm trying.. Mostly my line of thought regarding the price is the maker not caliber or condition of the rifle.. Thats why I'm asking. I'm also looking to be corrected if I'm wrong, but you also bring to thought that perhaps it is priced right due to maker vs. the kings ransom a Brit gun would bring in this highly sought after caliber.. Heaven know's it's got me thinking, and I had my mind made up for a British maker 450/400 someday.. I can only assume the bore condition is as good as the rest of the gun, it was made in 1993

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #53851 - 02/04/06 08:50 AM


MopaneMike

I forgot to mention that I have a 375 Flanged Magnum DR
and I really like the calibre. The gun is the RIgby Sidelock
shown in the Double Rifle photos section.

Effectively just a little bit more power than the 9.3 x 74R
however I don't think any animal would notice the difference.


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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #53867 - 02/04/06 11:54 AM

Why is that rib so tall I wonder? I hope its hollow, or that's going to be one needlessly muzzle-heavy rifle IMHO.

Otherwise looks quite OK for a 'continental' gun!

Engraving is a bit enigmatic, the bouquets looks great but the scroll is a bit 'low brow'. ...and I've already decided what I think of an elephant on the floor-plate of a .375 Flanged! That's a bit optimistic these days! Marvellous chambering for a medium-bore though, as MopaneMike points out.

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #53882 - 02/04/06 03:09 PM

Mike,

Are you considering this rifle?
By chance I was in PA this week and stopped by the Cabela's and looked at this double. Either the gun has been refinished or the individual who did the initial buffing had no clue what he or she was doing. The lettering under the forend is all washed out. Bores are like new.

Corbin

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #53994 - 03/04/06 05:17 PM

Zanardini are a fine Italian company and they make a particularly nice hammer double rifle. Their rifles are popular in Germany and, perhaps, some of our German members would step in and let us know what they think about them. I have always been surprised that they do not have a presence in the USA, but this gun with Cabelas suggests that they probably do, but that it is not very well known.



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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: 1980E26]
      #54048 - 04/04/06 05:46 AM

Hey Corbin,
Thanks for taking the time to check out this gun. At first glance I was interested, but then after re-evaluating my needs versus desires,(Ha!) I decided not to persue it any further.. I saw this rifle about the time I noticed how handy looking those little 9.3X74 merkel O/U looked and started thinking perhaps the .375H&H would be just as handy (not thinking about frame dimensions duh!) But I couldn't recall seeing a .375 in a very long time if at all since I started getting interested in D/R's.. But as I looked harder and harder at this rifle I started noticing things like, poorly fit stock to receiver, poorly fit recoil pad and as you mentioned blueing issues. Not to mention I too thought the sight rib looked like a railway line down the middle... Just when I convinced myself to keep looking for that just right 450/400 or 450NE, I spy a freakin fantastic German O/U on Bob Jones website in.... You guessed it... 375H&H.... Oh the injustice of it all...

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #54051 - 04/04/06 06:09 AM

Mike,

Go for it!

Stand up for what you hold dear. DR desire is not to be denied.

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #54060 - 04/04/06 10:10 AM

Mike,

You are not missing much by not purchasing the gun at Cabelas. The stock was more like a club. I do not recall ever seeing a thicker buttstock on any rifle I have ever held. Man that thing was thick.



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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: 1980E26]
      #54064 - 04/04/06 10:55 AM

Corbin what a coincidence you droping in from NC and Banzabird was going to stop in and also do a touchy feely on this rifle.. It pay's to have friends here at NE.com it will be interesting to hear what Banzibird say's and to compare notes. But I did send cabela'a an email regarding this one http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/dundee/fine_rifle/407327_lancaster_dun.jsp I couldn't help myself, perhaps I have a leg up on the deal knowing some of it's background.. (see post This ones killing me)

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #54069 - 04/04/06 12:13 PM

Well ask and yee shall receive.

The 375 is a decent gun. I'd say it is a definite working gun. As was pointed out by Corbin there is some definite issues with the metal finish. The barrels were only part of it. I thought the elephant on the bottom was pretty bad. Though I couldn't do better unless you like stick figure elephants . There are also a bunch of screws that looked buggered pretty well. The rib to me didn't look as bad in person as it does in the pics. Though I think it adds quite a bit of weight out on the barrels and that doesn't do much for the handling characteristics. Now the wood has some issues as well. The buttstock inletting is decent. It has a gap here or there but nothing to horrible (for a working gun). The pics I think make this look worse then in person due to shadow etc. However the forend wood to metal fit is pretty bad. From looking at the gun I think the buttstock was shortened and the current pad fitted. Neither done very well. The finish around where the buttstock meets pad is pretty rough and uneven, as though it was chipped up pretty bad and only fixed halfway.

Now onto superficial stuff. I think some of the other engraving was shoddy. Particularly the engraving on the barrels and the elephant as mentioned above. The stock was very thick and I found the angle of the grip to be uncomfortable. I'm also not very big on beavertail forends though I found this one to look nice and not feel bad the way it was done. I found the cheekpiece to be overly large for the stock.

Well those were my general opinons on that gun. Though I must say I went to look at this gun.

Bill

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: banzaibird]
      #54079 - 04/04/06 03:28 PM

You guy's are too much! . Thanks banzabird, it seems we all agree, my rifle sucks.. how was the one you looked at??

Now if we only have a fellow NE.com close to cabela's Utah store, I'd be walkin in tall cotton

Ok, sucks might be too strong.. Like mom say's, if you can't say anything nice blah-blah-blah.. Of course it's a lot nicer than any DR I have

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #54091 - 04/04/06 08:26 PM

I wouldn't say it sucked. I'd just say that is has some small issues. Honestly other than the forward balancing point (it isn't really muzzle heavy because of the large buttstock, but it's point of balance is really close to the left hand.) and the elephant there is nothing that couldn't be fixed on the rifle. However I think paying the asking price and then planning to fix it is a bit much. Now if you could buy it for less with the fixing stuff in mind then i think as I said you'd have a fine working rifle.

Bill

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Re: I was just thinking about one of these [Re: MopaneMike]
      #54134 - 05/04/06 11:29 AM




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Subject: Re: I was just thinking about one of these

You guy's are too much! . Thanks banzabird, it seems we all agree, my rifle sucks.. how was the one you looked at??

Now if we only have a fellow NE.com close to cabela's Utah store, I'd be walkin in tall cotton





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