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luv2safari
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9,3X74R for big game
      #4847 - 09/11/03 04:56 PM

I am new to your forum and very pleased to have found you! Is there any hope of moving the firearms regulations in Africa into the 21st century? While NOT ideal, I like to shoot big game, as well as plains game with a 9,3X74R. With the new bullets we now have the caliber is right there with the 375 flanged magnum. The 9,3x62 was used with great success for many years and has the same ballistics. I would like to take my next buffalo with one of the 320gr solids now on the US market. I bow to the more experienced, however, and welcome the input of experience. I have used a 416 Rigby (Ruger RSM) for buffalo up to now. Next, we get into the "solids vs. softs" argument...any suggestions??

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Re: 9,3X74R for big game [Re: luv2safari]
      #4850 - 09/11/03 05:58 PM

I would bet that their are at least a half a dozen posters here who use and love the 9.3x74R and it's retarded twin the 9.3x62. I know that all of these fellows, myself included, have taken it to Africa and used it on plains game with great sucess.

I have shot one Buffalo with a 9.3x74R and others here may have also. A large number of Buffalo have been shot with the 9.3x62. That being said I don't believe it is near enough rifle for dangerous, thick skinned game. It is much closer to a 35 Whelan than a 375 Holland.

The 320 grain bullets will probably not regulate in a double regulated for the 286 grain bullet. They are wonderful bullets in a bolt action at the proper velocity and in the 360#2 that they were made for.

It can be done most of the time but not every time.

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Re: 9,3X74R for big game [Re: mickey]
      #4852 - 09/11/03 06:32 PM

I was considering using the 9,3 in a Valmet 412 and can easily regulate for the 320gr. I don't particularly like O/U's for dangerous game, however...too slow to load that bottom barrel while running!!! I did take a real classic looking old buff of 39", deep curls and all battered and banged up with a Simson 12x12x9,3x74r drilling with 286 Woodleigh solids. I was shooting Francolin, and there he was. My PH said OK and the game scout thought that the 9,3 was a 375 flanged...so, what the heck. It was a good shot across the left leg and through the heart. I started breathing again when he turned and limped off to die about 150 yards away. I felt a tad foolish standing there with two barrels of 1 1/4 ounce of 5 shot as follow ups! I posed for photos with my 416 (no evidence...) Think I'll stick with a 416...

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Re: 9,3X74R for big game [Re: luv2safari]
      #4855 - 09/11/03 11:37 PM

The 9.3x74R has been used for everything up to and including elephant.

But I am from the John Taylor school of thought that someday you will get in trouble with pea-shooters. Obviously with a PH for back-up, one can get away with otherwise marginal calibers. I just don't believe that is playing the game fairly. What is the point if the PH is shooting your animals?

It is in the same vein as all the stories about the handgun hunts. How much game gets wounded? How many had to be finished off by the PH? So what is the point in screwing around with pop-guns?

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luv2safari
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Re: 9,3X74R for big game [Re: Will]
      #4859 - 10/11/03 04:02 AM

I agree completely, and was sure glad at the outcome of the one and only time I have ever hesitsted to pull the trigger because of what would come out the other end. The last thing anyone wants is a wounded animal of ANY kind, let alone a buffalo. I have for many years been an advocate of "never too big". An old, now departed friend...Bob Enewold (Dirty Bob)...convinced me to use #4 bird shot on quail. I thought he was nuts and told him so! But, I tried it, and I have not crippled a bird since. I get more birds with less holes and shot to navigate through at the dinner table. I have applied this principle to all my hunting, since. I have shot only a couple of buffalo and found them tough. A well placed shot seemed to work, whatever caliber was used (with good bullets), but I asked about the 9,3 from my rather limited experience. Now I know and am better informed.

For years, when asked advice on where to go and how to do it, I answered..."hire a good guide and DO what he says"... This forum is of equal value to those of us who would take the time to ask and listen...Thanks!

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