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dcmbsn
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looking for help
#46772 - 17/01/06 06:01 AM

I am looking for any information on a gun that I have , it was made by J.Hollis and son,London England,its a 577 cal.and may be called a breach loader ?? the top opens and swings to the left,it also has a hammer on top.Thanks

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pwm
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Loc: Banana Republik of Germany

Re: looking for help [Re: dcmbsn]
#46775 - 17/01/06 06:25 AM

that sounds strange for a british gun, more like a combination of the v. Dreyse and Teschner Collath action.
try to make pics

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Marrakai
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Reged: 09/01/03
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Loc: Darwin, Top End of Australia

Re: looking for help [Re: dcmbsn]
#46788 - 17/01/06 11:11 AM

Its most probably a Snider, although most swing their breech-block to the right. I'll find a couple of good links for you and add them here soon. Feel free to 'Google' "Snider Rifle" in the meantime.

The maker is I. Hollis & Son by the way (for Isaac), rather than 'J', and the chambering is ".577 Snider". It was indeed Britain's first military breech-loader, although many sporters were made at the time, particularly by Hollis. Is yours a military or sporting pattern, dcmbsn?
Cheers

OK, here we go: check this LINK.

Here's a pic of the Snider action closed:

and open:

Hope this helps.

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Edited by Marrakai (17/01/06 11:28 AM)

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dcmbsn
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Re: looking for help [Re: Marrakai]
#46865 - 18/01/06 07:01 AM

I was wrong the breach block does swing to the right and it is I. Hollis and son.It looks like the same type of gun with a few differences,on the breach block there is a thumb release to open the breach,and nowhere on the gun can I find anything that is marked Snider.I will try to post pictures.I think it may be the sporters.Also there is a small bar on the left side that maybe for a strap??Any ideas as to where I could find the value of these guns??I paid $200 for it,was it worth it??Thank you

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Marrakai
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Re: looking for help [Re: dcmbsn]
#46899 - 18/01/06 12:35 PM

In reply to:

was it worth it??

Hell yeah!!

The bar on the left hand side indicates a cavalry carbine, also the thumb-lock on the breech-block is MkII or MkIII. the MkIs were converted from the Enfield muzzle-loader and nick-named 'suicide-breech' because of the lack of locking device, as in the one pictured above.

Sniders are never marked as such on the actual firearm. They just are!

You have an interesting historical rifle there, dcmbsn, though they can be a challenge to load for. Visit the Snider/Enfield pages on the British Militaria Forums for more info.

Hope this helps.

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Marrakai
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