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bonanza
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Late Hammerguns.
      #45672 - 04/01/06 05:22 AM

Why would a gunmaker continue making hammer guns as late as 1905? I love their stone simplicity however.

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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: bonanza]
      #45673 - 04/01/06 05:24 AM



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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: bonanza]
      #45675 - 04/01/06 05:29 AM

Bonanza

One thing we tend to forget is that alot of guns were made
to "customer order".

Therefore if someone walked in and wanted a hammer gun,
that's what was made. It has been said that some older shooters
also never got used to Hammerless guns so stuck with what they
knew.

I had an Underlever Hammer 500/450 Nitro made by Holland
dated approx 1904 !!!

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bonanza
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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: 500Nitro]
      #45678 - 04/01/06 05:35 AM

I have to say, the more I look at this thing, the more I like it. It has a good feel to it and I like cocking those hammers.

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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: bonanza]
      #45680 - 04/01/06 05:54 AM

Not unusual in the slightest. LOG ("lever over guard", aka Jones underlever) hammerguns were common until WWI and lots of makers continued to offer them into the '20s & '30s, although most of the later guns were top-lever. Quite a few hammerless guns, especially rifles, were built on the Jones action as well. Purdey seems to have been especially fond of them, as they built "best" hammerless sidelock nitro express DRs on the Jones until 1914 at least. Some of these were even built as snap actions.
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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: bonanza]
      #45685 - 04/01/06 06:22 AM

Go shoot it!


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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: bonanza]
      #45698 - 04/01/06 08:10 AM

Bonanza:

Let me try to clarify the date a little. The 1904 rules were promulgated in 1904, hence the name. I don't know, exactly, what the effective date was. The presumption seems to be early 1905, and the guy I talked to at the Proof House didn't know for sure. New British guns are proven as barreled actions "in the white" - they are far from complete when proved. They are then stocked, regulated, engraved and finished. This takes months. Thus, it is unlikely that your gun could have been delivered earlier than sometime in 1905, but it could have been later. From the numbers, I don't think it could have been a lot later, though, but you never know. A friend has a nice boxlock DR from a London maker that was finished on a barreled action bought in from Webley. The Webley number on it is from roughly 1924 and the proof marks are 1904 rule, which were obsoleted by the 1925 rules, so the gun was barreled up and proved 1924-1925. This gun was delivered in 1952, by which time the cartridge that it was chambered for was obsolete! Go figure.
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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: bonanza]
      #45811 - 05/01/06 01:24 PM

Purdey started making hammer shotguns again about two or three years ago. I am sure that it is a question of time before they start making hammer double rifles again. In Italy Zanardini make a hammer double rifle in several calibres.

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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #46123 - 09/01/06 04:51 AM

the fact that this rifle was delivered in, or around 1905,makes little differece whether it is a HAMMER rifle, or not! Hammer double rifles, and shotguns are being made, brand new, today! The Jones lever is another matter, however! I have hammer double rifles, and cape guns, that were made in the 20s, and one hammer double rifle that was made in 1988!

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Re: Late Hammerguns. [Re: DUGABOY1]
      #46604 - 14/01/06 02:13 PM

From an European perspective, many if not most Ferlach guns made in 1905 were hammer guns. The 1935 Franz Sodia Ferlach catalog shows a full range of hammer guns. After WWII they were les common, but from about 1970s on they again became fashionable.

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