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Chasseur
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Re: EXTRACTOR Rifles for Dangerous Game [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #45490 - 01/01/06 07:11 PM

I have to agree with both 400Nitro and Curly.

My only DR is an extractor one and I have no problem letting the empties slip out of the rifle for a pretty quick reload. Though I've not been dangerous game hunting so this is just something I do when off hand shooting and doing "dangerous deer and bear hunting."

However, when bird hunting ejectors come in real handy. Many times I've been able to get a 3rd or even a 4th shot off in a flush or a covey rise with ejectors. No way with extractors, and I used to hunt with an old extractor shotty (Stevens 311 ) a lot in High school and college and I got pretty good at reloading it. However, ejectors are kinda of a pain when you are shooting clays as a reloader, but I've gotten pretty good at catching them.

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JPK
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Re: EXTRACTOR Rifles for Dangerous Game [Re: Chasseur]
      #45730 - 04/01/06 04:17 PM

I'm just back from being out of town so I'll pitch in my 2 cents worth.

I would hunt with either, but prefer ejectors.

Ejectors are faster, period. They require less motion though a bit more force to reload (but I can attest that you will not notice the effort when you have pulled the trigger on DG). You can get fast with extractors but not as fast. Further, the ejector stays closer to the position you would mount from. An ejector should be broken by lowering the barrels with the butt against your ribs, when you raise them to close you are remounting the rifle. No tilting, no hoping the brass dropped clear, no retilting or having the new rounds slide back out, alternatively, no picking the brass out of the chambers.

I've had occasion to need to reload quickly with DG and I don't accept the proposition that todays' DG hunting is so set piece that the quickest reloads possible are not a substantial benefit. I believe that there is a real posibility that if you hunt DG enough, even with a PH, you'll end up with the oportunity to save someone's bacon, if not your own. Being quicker might prove essential. Surestrike has done just this and IIRC, a fast reload was involved.

Also, in my limited experience, killing two, elephants react to a rifle shot but cannot pinpoint the source when you are close (deer seem to have the same reaction when you're close as well). They also don't seem to be able to pinpoint the source of the ejector ping. Elephants that are further away, sat 75 or 100 yards seems to know what a rifle shot means and they bolt. Cape buffalo seem to bolt in reaction to the sound of a shot from any range.

Ejectors can be a pain at the range. I catch the empties in my trigger hand but they escape from time to time. In the field I couldn't care less where they go and you can come back and get them, or have a tracker do it, no issue. In fact since they're ten feet or so behind you you won't step on the cases and crush the case mouths.

So far as best rifles having ejectors, I'd say its the same as big bore sidelocks being back action, ie, an overwhelming 75% or 80%. Hope I don't have to count these too to prove my point.

JPK


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