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Kangaroos fear sound of own feet
      #43332 - 07/12/05 12:02 PM

Kangaroos fear sound of own feet

By Jacquie van Santen for ABC Science Online

Farmers may one day blast out a recording of kangaroos thumping their feet to scare them off, new research suggests.

Researchers think using the kangaroo's own alarm signal will be better than existing deterrents, which rely on artificial squeals that pest roos can grow used to.

Dr Helena Bender, who was a PhD student at the University of Melbourne when she did the research, has published her findings in the latest issue of the journal Wildlife Research.

Australia's iconic marsupials are often seen as pests as they can damage crops and property, and compete with livestock for food and water.

But using the sound of foot thumps may be a deterrent.

Kangaroos thump their feet, hitting one on the ground ahead of the other, when they sense danger and take flight.

Often nearby kangaroos will also take flight when they hear the sound.

Until now, the only commercially-available kangaroo deterrent devices have used recordings of non-natural sounds, often a high-pitched squeal.

But studies have found no evidence that these high frequencies are effective for problem species or that they work for anything other than a very short period of time.
Sound recordings

Dr Bender used a recording of an eastern grey kangaroo (Macropus giganteus) foot thump.

She determined its effectiveness compared with a recording of background noise, the sound of rustling eucalypt leaves, over a seven-week period.

She found that just over 60 per cent of kangaroos took flight in response to both the foot thump and the control signals, but more kangaroos took flight in the first three seconds when the foot thump was played.

While the percentage of roos that took flight was almost identical, only the foot thump signal increased the level of alertness of the roos.
Rural benefits

Dr Bender says she hopes her research will benefit rural Australia.

"Reducing the presence of kangaroos in an area should result in a significant decrease in the amount of damage caused, and an increase in harvest yield," she says.

"Moreover, for those kangaroos that remain behind, most of these will be in a state of alertness.

"When kangaroos are alert they cannot feed. This also means less damage to the agricultural property."

She says the foot thump sound could also be used to guide kangaroos away from roadways, thus reducing the number of vehicles damaged by kangaroos and the number of kangaroos injured or killed by vehicles.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200512/s1524251.htm

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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: NitroX]
      #43336 - 07/12/05 12:16 PM

I firmly believe that high velocity will beat high pitch as a kangaroo deterrent every time!

They simply don't get the chance to get used to it!!

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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: NitroX]
      #43360 - 07/12/05 01:41 PM

Who the hell paid for that dumb-arse research? I hope the activists funded (yeah right!)

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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #43368 - 07/12/05 04:42 PM

Where the hell did she find roos in Melbourne to study?

PhD student studying the sound of roo feet = someone living on taxpayer's money = avoidance of real work.

Best deterrency hardware = ask the guy at the gun shop.

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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: rgp]
      #43369 - 07/12/05 05:09 PM

It really is quite obvious that an animals alarm signal will make them alert or scare them away. Thats why its called an alarm signal

But really another option if effective is well worth the effort. If you were the farmer and could rig up an automatic speaker to scare the roos and minimise damage it would be great. It would certainly beat being out culling all night.
I know it aint the solve all solution and that culling is still a very serious and practical method. If the roo thump turns out to be cheap and effective then great.


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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: Alpine_Hunter]
      #43373 - 07/12/05 07:44 PM

1.
"She says the foot thump sound could also be used to guide kangaroos away from
roadways, thus reducing the number of vehicles damaged by kangaroos and the
number of kangaroos injured or killed by vehicles."

What are they going to do, put a loud speaker and CD player on the front of every car
or along the road every 200 metres ?

I prefer the high velocity brain surgery system

2.
Reducing the presence of kangaroos in an area should result in a significant decrease
in the amount of damage caused, and an increase in harvest yield," she says.

- All the roos are going to do is piss off to an another agricultural area.-

"Moreover, for those kangaroos that remain behind, most of these will be in a state of
alertness.
"When kangaroos are alert they cannot feed. This also means less damage to the
agricultural property."

And when the alert is over they will go back to eating.


And finally, in 5 years time we will have a population explosion of Kangaroos.


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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: 500Nitro]
      #43386 - 08/12/05 02:36 AM

Some road transport already has a "thumping" effect and sound. Yet roos still get hit on roads by these same vehicles.

A rather lame research project.

I think a lot of this "plastic monkey" research starts with the premise "lets not hurt or kill anything, and then try to find anything, however tenuous, to support "answers" to the primary premise.



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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: Alpine_Hunter]
      #43433 - 08/12/05 11:17 AM

Alpine

Yeah but pushing them off your crop is only sending the problem to some other poor bastard. Better to promote shooting as the best culling option (which it is) and not allow these studies any room.

Hey can you give me a call when you get a chance - about that hunt - 02 6771 4734ah 02 67713529 office. night is best time

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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #43473 - 09/12/05 12:05 AM

Mmmmm , thumping noises scare roos ? No shit Sherlock ! Scares rabbits too . Could be a Phd. in that ?
Does this explain why most of the mob bugger off when an 87gn V Max hits one of their mates... THUMP .
Whock and bong seem to work too !

Edited by Bushie (09/12/05 12:07 AM)


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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: Bushie]
      #44263 - 17/12/05 03:49 PM


Bushie

You've noticed that the HUMP, Whock and bong
scares off the mob.

Interesting isn't it.

I think we should all be awarded PhD's for our work
testing which bullet makes the best sound when it ruptures
the scull.

And a 500 Nitro 570gn SN doen't make that good a sound
but it wins in the "largest hole on exit" department.

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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #44266 - 17/12/05 03:56 PM

Matt
I have been out bush for the last week so only just got your e mail. Will try calling again Sun night, if I dont catch you then it will be Monday. Still keen.

Agree that this phd was a waste of resources, money and time. And yes there does seem to be a greeny non killing drive behind a lot of studies these days. A simple trial by a company who wanted to sell the product would have been fine.
Shooting is a great and effective method, especially when the roos get used. It just cant be used all the time.
Examples are town areas, footy fields etc.
One method is rarely suitable for all occasions.
Its a valid idea, not that it deserves the attention, money and hopes that this study seems to have attached.


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Re: Kangaroos fear sound of own feet [Re: 500Nitro]
      #44277 - 17/12/05 09:43 PM

I have to dissagree about the 500 nitro leaving the biggest exit wound.
A roo shot with a 85gn bthp 243 especially when head shot is very dramatic.
My record was 97 straight head shots before I missed one and my mate Pete shot 115 before he missed one..
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