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BlainSmipy
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Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca
      #42408 - 26/11/05 04:09 AM

Hello,

I'm new to the forum, so I'm just saying howdy. Also I
just ordered the Kodiak Express in 72 cal. I've loved doubles and black powder for years, so I've combined them.
I know its been asked a zillion times before, but has any one shot one of these? What is the max load it can take. I've been told that the factory recommends no more them 80 grains and a round ball. But the thing has to be able to take more than that right? Has any one taken any heavy game with one? I've read a couple articals and pages from people have modified the 50cal version, but nothing on the 72 cal.

Also I see on the factory web site that there is a Safari version in 72 cal. whats the difference between them?


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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #42411 - 26/11/05 04:16 AM

Jason: I had one several years ago and had wonderful fun with it. Why I swapped it off is still a mystery to me.
I shot it with both round balls and conicals. To see two of the conicals I used, look for the photo of four bullets under the "Building a big-bore muzzleloader" thread. I only fired one of the 1100-grainers, as I had but two, but I shot a couple of dozen of the 835-grain bullets, from NEI mold 399, I believe. They were nicely accurate, as I recall. I will hunt for my chronograph notes. The .715 patched round balls were very pleasant to shoot with up to 150 grains of FFg. There is a guy who casts commercially -- think his name is Wayne Dudna -- who can fix you up with some of the conicals if you want to try them.
You are in for a real treat with your Kodiak .72.


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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca [Re: BillfromOregon]
      #42412 - 26/11/05 04:18 AM

By the way, Jason, if you mesure that 835-grain conical and plug it into the Greenhill formula, it will tell you you want a 1:85 twist as optimum. The Kodiak twist is 1:86: perfect!

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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #42424 - 26/11/05 05:34 AM

Jason,

Update your profile.

I did a little research this morning and found that the standard load for a .577 BPE is 160Gr FF, so I'm sure your new 12 bore Kodiak Express will take 160Gr.

Blair

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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #42427 - 26/11/05 06:02 AM

Go shoot that rifle!

I want to hear accuracy and chrono results. I'd hope the roundball load would be accurate.

Just looking at the photos on the company website, it seems the safari stock is slightly different, with less drop at heel and slightly more cup in the buttplate. That could just be the photos though. The description of the rifle also speaks of different alloy to the barrel steel. You can email Pedersoli and ask them.


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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca [Re: tinker]
      #42568 - 30/11/05 06:44 AM

Colorado: Posted some chrono info on the Kodiaks under your brother's thread on the double forum.

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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.72 ca [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #42590 - 30/11/05 10:17 AM

Colorado

Good luck with the big bore Pedersoli. I am sure it will be fun, and please report back. While the .72's are not imported into Australia, it is a rifle I would like to acquire and shoot for fun oneday myself.



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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.7 [Re: NitroX]
      #42657 - 01/12/05 05:26 AM

All,

I received the Kodiak last night, and so far it is what I expected. Fit and finish are good, not great. Wood is what I'd call field grade, but still nice. Barrles are very pretty, blued nicely and shiney. I have no way of accurately measuring thier bore, but they look clean. The reciever looks cast or forged, not machined. The side locks are nicely flush with the wood. Some of the pieces are not perfect fits into the wood, with tiny gaps between the metal and wood, but not bad considering. Checkering is cut, not pressed. The feel of the gun is natural. It points quickly, and has a nice heft to it. I took the barrles off to inspect the stock everything seems fine. It was easy to take apart once I learned the trick. Which is to squeeze the fore stock against the barrles while pushing the cross pin out. I could do this in less that 5 seconds. Sights are, I think, decent quality, and look like the one off a Ruger No#1. Trigger guard and triggers look good, the guard could be finshied a little better I think.

Hopefully this weekend I'll get to shoot it and give a report on it. I'll try to get some photos of it tonight apart and post them up here. I think if it shoots good I'll be happy. If it doesn't, Cabela's has a pretty good return policy, I'll just ship it back.

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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.7 [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #50228 - 18/02/06 08:35 AM

Decided to git me one too before Cabelas stops selling them.

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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.7 [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #50229 - 18/02/06 10:40 AM

Great!

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Re: Ordered pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore/.7 [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #50416 - 21/02/06 04:08 AM

Colorado- check out http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com for a 'new' Express sight for your double. I'd suggest the single leaf sight that should be easily dovetailed into the rib. That will give a standing point-blank sight plus a flip-up leaf for 150yards. Your present loading should give full use of it's second blade. I filed the point-blank sight low and straight, rather than sloping, for a better sight picture. With a small bead on the front, there is non better.
: Once filed in and with that bead up front and a bit of practise, you'll come to love the wide "V" rear sight. It is an accurate sight for all ranges, not only a close range sight as some who couldn't have used them much like to proclaim.
: Fast for close range 'charging' animals it is, but also very accurate at distance. The bead settles in the shallow "V" perfectly, accurately and just wants to sit there with no windage problems as with "U" or "V" notches.
; It became my preferred sight for the 14 bore ML rifle, capable of shooting at close as the rifle and shooter can muster.
: Once at the site, click on rear sights, then Express, then scroll down the page to the single leaf, click on 'purchase' and it's picture will come up. While I used the 3 leaf sight for a 100, 150, 200 and 300 meter ranges, the single leaf should give 100 and 150yd sighting, perfect for your double rifle. Note the final shape of my 'standing' sight, the low one and the 150yd sight. I rarely used the longer range leafs, except at rendezvous for gong targets, so they were never "V'"d. My front sight was a 1/16" tapered brass rod, set low and soldered to an iron base, typical of muzzleloading English front sights. With little elevation needed, nor recommended, the ball travelled very close to the lineof sight, right out to 120yards, being no more than 1-1/2" above nor below the line of sight to that range. Your 180gr. charge should give that to you as well.
; A cheaper standing and single leaf sight can be found in the MISC link, rather than the express link. As it is alread stright, less filingis necessary, and the shallow "V" can easily be filed in. It appears this one might fit a standard dovetail. Good luck!
: ps - I should note that with a light, 3 dram load, my sights then zero'd at 65yds. 100yds, 150yds, and 250yards. Increasing the powder charge, merely made the rifle shoot further, giving very little additional elevation to the ball, just as Forsyth said. This is due to the low mounting of the front sight and relatively low rear sight. With high set sights, there is a greatly increasd elevation given the ball.
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Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: bonanza]
      #50619 - 23/02/06 07:39 AM

My Kodiak 12 bore muzzle loader came in yesterday. Walk, no run to yer computer and buy on of these. They are awesome to behold. Not at all cluby, very high qaulity for the money. And the size of those bores are so impresive.

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Re: Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: bonanza]
      #50622 - 23/02/06 07:56 AM

COOL!- how about some good photos of your new rifle?
: Of particular interest would be a side shot of the right or left lock, showing relationship of the nipples and hammers, fired position and 1/2 cock.
: A down shot of the wrist, tang, breech-plug, also showing the rear sight (forward towards the muzzles) would also be good.
: A closeup of the muzzles, front sight, and right or left side of the whole rifle.
: Thanks a lot! We (me) really need to see this.

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Re: Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: DarylS]
      #50649 - 23/02/06 01:49 PM





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Re: Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: DarylS]
      #50676 - 24/02/06 01:42 AM

Its really nice.

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Re: Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: bonanza]
      #50694 - 24/02/06 03:40 AM

Many thinks for the pictures, Bananza.

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Re: Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: BlainSmipy]
      #50831 - 25/02/06 07:43 AM

Colorado - didn't you say you 're-worked' the breeches or hmmer/nipple/fence relationship? If so, could you post some pictures of the changes made?

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Re: Pedersoli kodiak express in 12 bore [Re: DarylS]
      #50836 - 25/02/06 08:32 AM

I'll take some pictures this weekend of the mods that I did.

On a side note, I've spoken with the gun smith Cabela's a few times in regards to the left tumbler shearing. They believe that possibly there is a hardness issue with a lot of .72's they received from the manufacture. Its happened before and Pedersoli fixes the problem. On their request I've been sent a couple tumblers and sears so that I can modify and test them. I will then send these to Cabela's for testing by them. They will then ship them to Pedersoli for evaluation as a possible production modification. The modification increases the notch depth about 50% and slightly reduces the back angle. The depth increase prevents shearing of the metal under heavy recoil and the angle reducing allows for light trigger pull (ie reduced shear on notch pressure. So far I've had no tumbler failures with this mod, and I've shot up to 185 grains triple 7. What I'm forgetting to say, is that this shearing happens when the left lock is fully cocked.

The second modification I'm working on is a second cross bolt through lock plates. This would had additional strength to the stock wrist area. The plates could then carry more of the load through this area.

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