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banzaibird
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Gold Label - First Impressions
      #40307 - 01/11/05 11:26 AM

Well I got a chance to shoot one of the Ruger Gold Labels today. The best part is I didn’t even have to lay out the money to get to play with the gun, as it belongs to my father-in-law.

Well my first impression was, ”Wow this thing is light.” I’m not sure what the weight of the gun is but it felt very light overall. It felt a little front heavy but not really out at the muzzle, kind of right at the forward hand.

Metal fit and finish seemed to be very good. The action was tight but seeing as this gun had just been picked up earlier today it hasn’t had any chance for break-in. The barrels were nice and smooth with no ripples. The action was the nice satin stainless with no tool marks visible on the outside.

Wood fit and finish. To me this is where this gun really went down hill. The wood wasn’t of a very high quality in figure or seemingly in density. On top of that the wood to metal fit was horrible. The wood stood at least 1/16th of an inch proud of the metal. The wrist was on the thin side which I normally like a lot however in this gun it is almost a completely round wrist and just seems to have an awkward feel. It could be that I’m just used to grips being thin on the sides and yet full on the top and bottom lines to fill the hand. Not sure but as I said it was awkward. The checkering also left a bit to be desired. It also could use something other than the plastic buttplate.

I started the day shooting it (well half the time) in the field. I used it on pheasant, rabbit, woodcock and grouse. The light weight of the gun made it quite pleasant to carry in the field. The light weight is also noticeable in the guns response in recoil. It seems to really want to twist in your hand. Perhaps this is a combination of weight and the round wrist, not really sure. Even though I didn’t notice it while hunting I still think the buttplate needs changed even if it is something like a ¼ inch rubber. The gun seemed quick to shoulder but seemed to take effort to get a good smooth swing on game. Its nimbleness was appreciated much more when we were hunting grouse as it came up quick for the types of shots grouse in this area present. However I think a little more gun weight overall would probably be a good thing. In all I shot 1 pheasant, 1 rabbit, 2 grouse and 2 woodcock with the gun. I experienced no mechanical problems with the gun.

After the days shooting the action still seemed to be awful tight (probably about 1 box of shells through the gun between me and the father-in-law. Not sure how many rounds will need to break it in a little bit.

Overall the gun was light (perhaps to light); the wood was overall horrible, metal work nicely done. Did I mention the wood was horrible? This in mind I’d have a tough time recommending the gun at its $1,700 price tag. Perhaps a quality restock would fix any and all “problems” I had with the gun. However why go buy a gun for that money an restock it when you could get a decent classic for the same investment.

Those are just my initial thoughts, as usual all my opinion so other may and probably won’t agree. Just thought I’d share.

BB


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luv2safari
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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: banzaibird]
      #40346 - 01/11/05 06:48 PM

I think the gun is DOA. Buy a couple now and salt them away for future Ruger collectors/fanatics. They won't be around long at that price. Once all gone...they will have some value that your grandchildern will thank you for.

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: banzaibird]
      #40350 - 01/11/05 07:24 PM


banzaibird

What do you mean by
"The wood stood at least 1/16th of an inch proud of the metal" ?

Are you saying that all around the action there is a gap between
the metal and wood that is 1/16th inch ?

Doesn't sound good if so.

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banzaibird
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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #40352 - 01/11/05 08:34 PM

No although there were some gaps nothing that drastic. I meant the wood is 1/16 " higher than the metal of the action or forend. Kind of a step.

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: banzaibird]
      #40376 - 02/11/05 03:14 AM


banzaibird

OK, understand which way now.

I think you might find that that's standard practice
for a new gun as it allows a refinish of the wood
(in many years to come) while still allowing the
wood to be level with the wood.

English guns often have it - particularly in days gone
by - I can't say for sure as to present style.

If the wood was dead level with the metal from day one,
if it became dented, scratched etc and the wood was
refinished, the wood would end up lower than the metal.

But then again, at the price they turn out some of these
low end guns now, you have to ask would it be worth it !!!

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #40388 - 02/11/05 06:06 AM

I'll be damned! Now I don't feel so bad that both of my doubles have that slight ridge where the metal meets the wood.

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: bonanza]
      #40435 - 02/11/05 06:09 PM


bonanza

I didn't know that until I got a gun restocked
and the stockist (even though it was a Bolt Action)
suggested adding abit all around so t could
handle 1 refinish.

Interestingly, today I checked some Modern guns
(Fabarm, Miroku etc) and they have wood proud of
the Metal.


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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #40453 - 02/11/05 10:46 PM

I understand the concept but the amount of extra wood would allow about 4 refinishes. There also is no radius on the edges so they are sharp and offer no flow into the metal.

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: banzaibird]
      #40462 - 03/11/05 01:45 AM

As an American and Ruger fan, I'm damn proud that Ruger produced this gun. However, when I finally had the chance to hold one. I was soooo disappointed. It lacks any elegance whatsoever and the wood is pretty bad. Let me elaborate. I own a Bicentennial (1976) .375 H&H #1 tropical. The quality of wood, fit and finish are superb. Ruger simply does not make guns like they did in the 1970's.

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: bonanza]
      #40467 - 03/11/05 03:34 AM


bonanza

I think the same applies to virtually every company
- it all happened when the accountants took over !!!

Apologise to any accountants on the forum.

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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: banzaibird]
      #40470 - 03/11/05 03:56 AM



They say on the Ruger website that these Gold Labels have "Premium grade American Walnut".

But as usual when it comes to marketing, the pictures they show are often not quite the real thing. But rather one of the few nice ones picked out specially...



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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: EricD]
      #40473 - 03/11/05 04:12 AM


It's like Beretta's and other Shotguns over here
- people look at 10 or more until they find one they like.

But you are correct - generally the guns used in marketing
are different to those in the shops.


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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: EricD]
      #40475 - 03/11/05 04:16 AM

The 2 gold labels I’ve seen in person had wood no where near as nice as the pic above.

I to was disappointed in the shotgun. I have quite a few Rugers and one of my favorites is a Woodside. That has nice wood and while the wood is still not flush with the metal it is 100 times better than the gold label. It is only slightly above metal and then there is a nice radius to the edges so they aren’t a sharp contrast.

I’ll try to shoot some pics of it the next time I get to the father-in-laws.

BB

P.S. – I should mention that it is one of the straight grip models. So I’m not sure about the feel of the pistol grip model.


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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: 500Nitro]
      #40904 - 08/11/05 03:24 AM

500 Nitro,

I had to do just exactly that before finding a Beretta 471 Silver Hawk with a resonable stock.

Too bad that it's become this way with todays gun manufacturers.


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Re: Gold Label - First Impressions [Re: banzaibird]
      #45383 - 31/12/05 01:41 PM

I looked at the Gold Label during the 05 ShotShow. The straight gripped model was short a trigger or so I thought. One of the Ruger suits overheard me say this; unfortunately, he did not agree. Straight grip shotguns should have two triggers.

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