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Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing
#395022 - 16/12/25 05:21 AM

it was maybe just a question of time until it happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esknfcIdmjA

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: lancaster]
#395024 - 16/12/25 07:38 AM

Lancaster, thanks for posting. There are many instances of imported animals getting out.

Several years ago, a friend posted a picture of a young red stag on his land in middle Georgia. Since then, there have been other sightings of red deer in Georgia. These apparently escaped from game ranches. I am not sure if any survive. I don't think that there were any red deer breading in Georgia, though at one time, there were some elk in Georgia which I believe are closely related to red deer.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: lancaster]
#395029 - 16/12/25 08:06 AM

Interesting

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: 85lc]
#395037 - 16/12/25 04:33 PM

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Lancaster, thanks for posting. There are many instances of imported animals getting out.

Several years ago, a friend posted a picture of a young red stag on his land in middle Georgia. Since then, there have been other sightings of red deer in Georgia. These apparently escaped from game ranches. I am not sure if any survive. I don't think that there were any red deer breading in Georgia, though at one time, there were some elk in Georgia which I believe are closely related to red deer.

I don't think invasive species are a good thing for anyone, see the hoog problem for north american farmer. elk is the north american relativ of the european red deer and he belongs to georgia.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: lancaster]
#395045 - 17/12/25 08:09 AM

I agree with Lancaster. Invasive species rarely have environmental good sides.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: Rule303]
#395049 - 17/12/25 08:56 AM

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I agree with Lancaster. Invasive species rarely have environmental good sides.

True but someone did it in Aus and I guess we just have to live with and try and make the best of the unfortunate situation.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: Claydog]
#395055 - 17/12/25 10:29 AM

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I agree with Lancaster. Invasive species rarely have environmental good sides.

True but someone did it in Aus and I guess we just have to live with and try and make the best of the unfortunate situation.

Hatred of "Invasive" species is a common theme among anti hunter and anti gun lobby industry members,

The "InvasivecSpecies Council" in NSW has been highlighted by the Shooters Fishers Farmers Party as sharing the same office building andcshared staff as another "dozen" Greenie, anti, Enviro etc radical extremist organisations. The invasive Species Council us another Marxist FRONT organisation pushing a Marxist agenda.

Introduced species can be a great benefit. Or damaging,

Banteng in the Top End, represent a huge benefit in the survival of a potential endangered species. Plus revenues for Aborigines,

Deer in Australia do not great harm the environment. No more than sheepm goats, cattle, horses, all domestic stock animals.

In Australia, the enviro Nazis, authorities, gate anything introduced, Want to 100% protect anything native. We can't even sporting hunt kangaroos, a species we have many tens of millions of. It's like if in Germany,you'd be banned from hunting roe deer and wild boar,

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: NitroX]
#395056 - 17/12/25 10:30 AM

I'm sure the Texans love hunting warthog,

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: lancaster]
#395058 - 17/12/25 10:53 AM

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it was maybe just a question of time until it happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esknfcIdmjA

IMO this Chester is full of sh*t. No evidence warthog and especially African red river hogs are a problem.

If it's not sensational it's not a story for him. Note at the end he admits he's never seen a warthog in the wild in Texas.

Domestic pigs also don't go "wild" within a week. What a load of rubbish.

I want some of those chital/axis deer and especially black buck here.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: NitroX]
#395080 - 18/12/25 05:16 AM

"Invasive game species" could be good or bad, depending on what it is and how they are handled. If the game doesn't pose a threat to native game or civilians and does provide another hunting adventure, I m in favor of that.

Pigs have been around since 1500 and only recently within the past 20 - 30 years become a significant problem. I am not sure why that is, but it seems that if the pig sounder were such a problem, that farmers all over would be crying out for hunters to eliminate the problem. That has not happened in Georgia and pig shooting is a big business in Texas.

Texas has a large number of "invasive game species" and hunters seem to be very happy with that.

There are times when people don't want "invasive species" as they don't represent nature as existed 200 years ago or allow a game species for hunters. Hank Paulson bought Little St. Simons Island (LSSI) off Georgia coast, had all the fallow deer killed, and shut down the old LSSI Hunting Club. Paulson didn't like hunting and wanted the LSSI to be just a nature preserve. Dues from the LSSI Hunting Club had previously supported wildlife biologist for the island.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: 85lc]
#395085 - 18/12/25 08:15 AM

I do not know what the official definition of "Invasive Species" is. To me Invasive Species is one that is destructive to flora or fauna or land or water. If the introduced species causes no great harm then I do not see it as Invasive, especially if there are benefits to it being here.

Australia's legacy of introduced species is largely one of Invasive types.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: Rule303]
#395453 - 31/12/25 11:18 AM

Australia's legacy of introduced species is largely one of Invasive types.

That would echo the state of Missouri and, most of them were introduced by the Missouri Department of Conservation. We're inundated with non-native plant species that are a constant battle, hogs and various insects. 100+ years ago, evidently some homesick Englishmen had English Sparrows and Starlings brought to the US. They both do their share of displacing native species and, starlings are purely filthy birds.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: sharps4590]
#395456 - 31/12/25 12:08 PM

I have read years ago, that domestic hogs running free will re-grow tusks in 1 year.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: DarylS]
#395457 - 31/12/25 12:41 PM

All the hogs I have shot on the lease here in Oklahoma have had rudimentary tusks. These hogs are all descendants of domestic pigs, with some inter breeding with eurasian hogs

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: DoubleD]
#395458 - 31/12/25 01:51 PM

Probably the most-common use of the term "invasive species" is to refer to non-native species that are causing a problem. Kudzu in the US South, rabbits in Oz, hogs in Texas, etc. Most people don't refer to, for example, cattle, as an invasive species though they are not native to much of the world.

85lc commented that hogs have become more of a problem in the past 25-30 years. There are a couple of reasons for this. Hogs aren't stupid: they are going to live where the livin' is easy: a biologist friend calls this "Hog World". Population gradually grows, until it reaches the point where in a few years the population goes from "some kind of acceptable number" to "too many". This causes problems in Hog World, one of which is the need for more room.

So the hog population expands into the periphery, and Hog World grows. As with other animals some have always lived out beyond the core population, but when the core population expands past the edges of "Hog World" it bumps the outliers even further out, and to people living in the expansion area it looks like suddenly there are hogs everywhere. With lots of room in the new area, population can easily more than double in a year.

Most of the farmers and ranchers I've talked with do want help controlling (eliminating!) the feral hogs. Unfortunately, sport hunting doesn't really accomplish this: taking a few hogs is only a statistical blip in the population. Control shooting does help, to an extent, at least temporarily, if the numbers killed are large enough.

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Re: Warthogs in Texas Are Increasing [Re: Jim_C]
#395467 - 01/01/26 08:28 AM

One chopper pilot I was speaking with said that on a flight, forget exactly where Cape Yoke but a distance just over 200kms, that if he saw one pig he saw over a million. 2 years later after a drought he was luck to see a dozen on the same flight.

Nature can help control population numbers, and it can help them grow as well.

We have some deliberately introduced pests like rabbit, carp, prickly pear, cane toads and some not deliberately introduced like fire ants. These are just a few invasive species we have.

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