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Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1
      #394713 - 02/12/25 07:49 PM

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Double rifles and dangerous game (part 1): What it takes to stop Africa’s biggest animals

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Tim Sundles of Buffalo Bore dives deep into the world of double rifles and dangerous game with a two-part video series.

Surrounded by some of the rarest and most powerful rifles ever made, from the .470 Nitro Express to the mighty .600 Nitro, Tim explains what makes these cartridges legendary for elephant and Cape buffalo hunting. He shares firsthand safari stories from Botswana, the true costs of hunting dangerous game, and what he’s learned from developing premium Nitro Express ammo.

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Tim Sundles showcases legendary double rifles and their powerful cartridges, ideal for hunting Africa's most dangerous game. The video details the history, design, and true cost of these rifles and ammunition. Expect firsthand safari stories and insights from decades of hunting experience.

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Re: Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1 [Re: NitroX]
      #394724 - 02/12/25 11:30 PM

Part 2

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Re: Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1 [Re: NitroX]
      #394741 - 03/12/25 07:37 AM

Very interesting videos, and quite the assemblage of .600 Nitro Rifles.

I diverge from some shooters in that I always fire the right barrel/front trigger first. I grew up with SxS double trigger shotguns and this just feels natural.
I have never (well, never say never right?) had a double discharge, likely because on shotguns and big rifles I do not use the tip of my finger on the trigger as would a bench rest shooter but have the "meat" of my index finger on the trigger.

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Re: Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1 [Re: 3DogMike]
      #394757 - 03/12/25 05:40 PM

With the very heavy recoiling rifles there may be a tendency to double discharge with the trigger finger more.

Which trigger first? Obviously the front trigger. But if the DR shoots adequately with regulation, rear trigger first, test it out, then why not.

Also some DRs have two different calibres. Obviously requires choice.

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Re: Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1 [Re: NitroX]
      #394758 - 03/12/25 05:54 PM

When this guy started up the video, and especially when saying "we don't just copy what others have done, we made our ammo better." I wondered if this guy knows much about regulation? Of course it appears he does. But I'm guessing a lot of his DRs have been reregulated to work with his own ammo

His ammo is worthless if it doesn't regulate in a good DR regulated for normal Kynoch loads - velocities,bullet profiles etc. One would have to try out Buffalo Bore ammo to see. With Kynoch ceasing, good loaded ammo will be harder to source.

Even with the often bravado and gusto, the videos are worth watching. A very nice collection of DRs.

Hecsays he doesn't make ammoforbless than the .470. Because he only makes ammo for serious calibres. Funny. I don't see any difference between a .470 and an original .450 NE

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Re: Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1 [Re: NitroX]
      #394761 - 04/12/25 05:33 AM

They make ammo for most ctg's. Buffalo Bore ammo is supposed to be quite good, however I've never used it, nor has anyone I know personally.
Seems to me Elmer Keith was a proponent of rear trigger first. Elmer wasn't a very big guy and had fairly small hands. He used to say you needed to shoot the gun to see if it regulated properly, firing the rear trigger first.
With multi-barreled guns, SxS and O/U I've always fired the right or upper bl.(front trigger) first.

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Re: Double Rifles by Buffalo Bore Part 1 [Re: NitroX]
      #394763 - 04/12/25 07:37 AM

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When this guy started up the video, and especially when saying "we don't just copy what others have done, we made our ammo better." I wondered if this guy knows much about regulation? Of course it appears he does. But I'm guessing a lot of his DRs have been reregulated to work with his own ammo

His ammo is worthless if it doesn't regulate in a good DR regulated for normal Kynoch loads - velocities,bullet profiles etc. One would have to try out Buffalo Bore ammo to see. With Kynoch ceasing, good loaded ammo will be harder to source.

Even with the often bravado and gusto, the videos are worth watching. A very nice collection of DRs.

Hecsays he doesn't make ammoforbless than the .470. Because he only makes ammo for serious calibres. Funny. I don't see any difference between a .470 and an original .450 NE



Now I'm not having a go at this guy but when you say a H&H Royal won't regulate....really!
Now he's been there done that, I certainly haven't on DG, yet John makes a good point; if your ammo can't regulate in conventional DG rifles, especially doubles then regardless of how good it is then yours & everyone else will have accuracy issues using it, simply because it was not regulated with it!
That is why Geoff MacDonald did all his expanding (softs) range on the same shape & principles of the old British designs - they actually perform & work even better than originals, as been proven all over the world, hence they perform accuracy wise in older doubles at the same velocities that they were designed to shoot.
My 450/400 gets just over 2000fps with the 400gn's, but it only like R15 for the Woodies, every other powder it didn't like - in my rifle! The same will apply to everyone else who reloads, it generally will only work in their rifle.
Graeme Wright's loads are numerous because of the many different rifles used in testing, each most likely preferring a different powder.
My rifle was regulated with Hornady ammo, it was a good as expected using it, except a bit slower than advertised; anyone else using the same ammo & whose rifle was so regulated would get the same results, so it would be a real labour of love to get your special ammo to regulate in different rifles, without changing the initial regulation so you buy the ammo off the shelf & go hunting!

As far as Buffalo bore solids I would expect them to behave like the Woodleigh conventional solids, very good indeed, most probably even better being monos.
The Woodleigh hyrdos are a different animal altogether, they form a bubble in front of that cup up front & don't just bore thru, it performs like a soft/solid hybrid!

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