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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: 500grains]
      #61237 - 16/08/06 07:03 AM

in "Death in a Lonely Land ", there is a story about the Seladang. I start to wonder what kind of hunting there would have still been if India and Pakistan hadnt been partioned?

But anyhow to meet a 1500 kg bull in a jungle must be a very intimidating moment,even though you have a rifle with you.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: zaitsev]
      #64618 - 25/10/06 12:19 PM

John-

I may have found the book you were talking about. A guar absorbing 15 shots from a pair of heavy doubles before going down, but not until it gored one of the hunters in the chest, tossed him around and made pate' out of his remains.

"Wild Sports of Burma and Assam"by Pollok

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #64703 - 26/10/06 09:33 PM

Nobodies asked the important question. Do they taste good?
Maybe we could ask Ted Nugent. He seems to have a recipe for every game animal on the planet

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: Grizzly]
      #64706 - 26/10/06 11:41 PM

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John-

I may have found the book you were talking about. A guar absorbing 15 shots from a pair of heavy doubles before going down, but not until it gored one of the hunters in the chest, tossed him around and made pate' out of his remains.

"Wild Sports of Burma and Assam"by Pollok



That sounds like it.



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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #65109 - 02/11/06 01:58 PM

I've got "Asian Hunter" coming soon, hope it lives up to its promise. Didn't Brandt try to mirror Mellon's African effort with this one?

For those interested, Col. Charles Askins wrote a book, "Asian Jungle African Bush" and details his hunts for Guar, Banteng, Tiger, etc. and so forth while working as a military advisor in Vietnam before the U.S. involvement. The book is a very good read, especially if you like Askins. The African part of the book is wonderful as well.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: 500grains]
      #72143 - 21/02/07 03:04 PM

I have seen but not shot Gaur. They are timid, shy animals, although are dangerous. A very good friend of mine was killed by one a few years ago. He was a Manager on a Tea Estate in South India One evening as he and his family were sitting down to dinner. The labor came to say that a bison had fallen into a dry pit they had dug to install a water tank or some such thing!

Followed by the workers and a bunch of onlookers they got to the place to see a female bison trying her best to get out. In the commotion that ensured, the bison somehow managed to jump out of the pit and hooked my friend who was unfortunately standing right in her way. He went flying and landed on a pipe that was sticking out of the ground. He suffered a lot of internal damage. Was rushed to the closest hospital 5 hours or more away. After much blood transfusion and some operations, it looked like he was going to make it, but passed on to the Happy Hunting grounds three days later. He was in his middle 40s and left behind two young children and a lovely wife. Very sad.

Foot and mouth disease from village cattle grazing in the forests have killed a lot of Gaur, but they are still fairly plentyful in Southern India and other places. A large bull is a very majestic animal and they are the biggest wild ox in the world. They live in thick bamboo forests and love hilly dense cover....

We have a very nice head at home which my father shot in the 50s I will post a pix of it when I get a moment.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: reddy375]
      #167827 - 16/09/10 03:24 AM

Another Gaur photo.



Courtesy of N. Swarmy

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #167828 - 16/09/10 03:28 AM


A photo from our member "Mpofu" of a Gaur


A couple of my own, through the thick brush.





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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: zaitsev]
      #167831 - 16/09/10 04:24 AM

Even after partition India still has considerable wildlife whereas in Pakistan it is dwindling by the day.If India were to allow hunting i assure you we could have hunts of a lifetime even barring the big cats.The no of antelopes of all kinds is phenomenal.I don't think partition had an effect on Indias wildlife.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #167832 - 16/09/10 04:27 AM

"Blue Mountain Bulls" - Gaur hunting article here on NitroExpress.com in the Nickudu Files

Other Gaur threads on NE:

"Gaur hunt"

"Hunting Banteng" - not gaur but the closest we get today

The NE Banteng & Scrub bull photo thread

Huge Banteng Bull

Banteng Hunts and Photos from Hunt Australia

Is the Cobourg Peninsula worth hunting?

Record banteng

Unexpected hunt - Banteng!

Dan did it again - banteng!

Gaur / Seladang

Australia's "Red Buffalo" - Banteng

470 vs banteng - Cindy Garrison

So far.

ANOTHER ...

DANGER OF SMALL-BORES FOR DANGEROUS GAME

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Edited by NitroX (02/04/11 03:01 AM)

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: DaveJames]
      #170759 - 01/11/10 05:40 PM

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Nitro that sure looks like them, they had a real habit of chargeing you and not makeing any noise, some of the guys used to think it was a kind of water buff that couldn't be tamed, the only one I remember being hunted was one that was mentioned in Col.Askins book, he claimed to have taken one there in the early 60's with a Winchester 71, don't remember the caliber



He had a M71 Win rebarrelled and rechambered to .450 Alaskan by Harold Johnson, the Alaskan gunsmith and guide who developed the cartridge.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: mradiel]
      #184496 - 24/06/11 12:58 PM

my dad did back be for they closed the hunting for them and tiger he took a nice bull and a real brute of a tiger had some photos but havent seen them in a couple of years he used 2 of his most loved rifles a holand&holand 500-465 and a nice winchester m70 375 h&h

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: ant458]
      #231905 - 01/07/13 04:15 AM



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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #273068 - 12/11/15 02:54 AM

https://web.facebook.com/sumaree.nisaimun/videos/1644403045799676/

Video of a gaur herd. What I would give to have been there at that time.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #367478 - 04/07/22 10:26 PM




Sanctuary Nature Foundation

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Kabini Nagarahole National park Karnataka.

Generally, gaur are most active in the morning and evening. However, they can be active by day or even become nocturnal, when living nearby human settlements. These sociable animals gather into herds, containing 8-11 or more individuals. A gaur herd includes females and one dominant male. The home range of each herd covers about 78 sq. kilometers’ (30 sq. miles) territory. Bulls often congregate into bachelor herds while older males occasionally prefer living solitarily. Against a threat, the bull usually lowers its head and hind side, attacking the rival from the broadside with its horns. When alarmed, these animals give out a call known as "whistling snort".
Gaur have polygynous mating system, where one male mates with a number of females. During the mating season, males give out calls of clear resonant tones, in order to attract receptive females. Meanwhile, bigger males are more successful in capturing the attention of females. They breed all year round with a peak period, lasting from December to June. Female Gaurs usually have an interval of 12-15 months between births. The gestation period lasts about 270-280 days, yielding a single baby. A newborn gaur calf weighs 23 kgs (50 Ibs) on average. At the age of 9 months, the calf is weaned and becomes reproductively mature when it is 2-3 years old.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sanctuaryasia/permalink/10160316303261103/

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #367526 - 07/07/22 12:47 AM

Image added.

Someone asked about aiming points for a shot and posted this image.

What do you think?

The hump is a complicating factor. As is the very deep chest.



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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #367529 - 07/07/22 01:23 AM

What a magnificent beast!

I was born too late. There will never be an opportunity to hunt some of the big game animals I have always held in high esteem. Tiger, jaguar and these incredible bovines.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: ThreeThreeEight]
      #367532 - 07/07/22 01:56 AM

I was lucky enough to see one in the wild decades ago in the center of the Malayan Peninsula.

We wanted to hunt water buffalos, but the terrain from the start was not the usual where we normally encountered the water buffalo. It was mountains covered with dense rain forest. The track also looked a little different than that of a normal water buffalo. We still followed up the track and after a certain time a young gaur bull, or called Seladang in the country, suddenly stood in front of us. I had never seen one before, but the shape of the head, horns and body is typical and distinctive.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: grandveneur]
      #367536 - 07/07/22 03:17 AM

Gaur in zindia. Seladang in Malay.

I've seen them in India I think it was Kanha National Park. First one was only through thick bush.

Second was in the open but before good photo light. The zindia fwits behind us 0, a convoy of them were impatient to do the "drive" and then centrally located to wait for tiger. Every fwit tour vehicle is assigned a drive. So the fucwits race at speed on these tracks to get them over as quickly as possible. Then go to the central hq. When a tiger is sighted they go to a spot to get on elephant to go into the bush where the tiger is lying up. Fucking city baboon race. Baboons are smarter ...

So missed out in an excellent photo opportunity. Five minutes and there would have been decent dawn light. Blurry dark photo.

I really wanted gaur photos. Wild rooster photos. Tiger and leopard of course. Deer etc, everything!

I posted beautiful on the gaur photo. The photographer said "stop hunting jackass". I told him to stop over breeding .... He has lots of wonderful tiger images so I pinched them. Ignorant rude bugger.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #370915 - 30/10/22 04:05 PM

https://fb.watch/gtJx6H64Ww/

Raw Power!
An angry Indian Bison a.k.a Gaur attacks an autorickaw on a street of India.
Gaur is the largest wild bovine in the world. A male gaur can reach up to 6 feet at shoulder and weigh up to 1500 kg.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #370934 - 31/10/22 02:17 AM

Lots of power.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: NitroX]
      #370939 - 31/10/22 03:35 AM

Strong horn, too.

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Re: Blacker than Black Death [Re: DarylS]
      #370955 - 31/10/22 02:56 PM

Magnificent animal! They look like they belong to the megafauna of the Pleistocene epoch along with the Saber-Toothed Tiger, the Irish Elk and the Mammoths / Mastodons.


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