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Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag
      #389618 - 14/02/25 06:54 AM

Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag

I've been fortunate to add another Custom Brevex Rifle to my collection. This one is also in my favorite 416 caliber, albeit a Wildcat in its day. The caliber is a 460 Weatherby Mag necked down to 416 caliber, aka 416-460 Wby Mag. Based on the History of Brevex rifles, this was likely an original Belgium 416 Rigby caliber from the late 1950's. Back then, 416 Rigby cartridges and brass were not readily available here in the U.S. So, it was easy to re-chamber this rifle to its current wildcat caliber and order custom RCBS reloading and forming dies. These custom dies came with the rifle and the cost marked on them is $21 and $18 per set. Very reasonable back then. About 35 years later, in 1989, Weatherby introduced their 416 Weatherby Magnum cartridge as a standard Big Bore chambering. The only difference between this 416-460 wildcat, compared to the current 416 Wby Mag cartridge, is this wildcat has sharp shoulder / neck geometry, whereas the current Weatherby cartridge has the typical radius shoulder / neck geometry. Because the Belt determines headspace, current ammo can be safety fired in the rifle. I added a 1-3/4 to 5 scope, and will followup with a range report as soon as temperatures become more tolerable.

This rifle's listing did not readily identify it as a Brevex, but pictures of the distinctive markings on the bottom of the action, identified it as such. BTW, if you have a Brevex rifle you care to sell, please PM me. I'd like to get to 20 by the end of the year. Mag cartridge,

http://www.buckstixwildcat.com/buckpics/416-460-000.jpg



http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/brevex18.jpg




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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: buckstix]
      #389640 - 14/02/25 08:32 PM

brevex-buckstix strikes again!

amazing

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: lancaster]
      #389648 - 14/02/25 10:13 PM

Amazing find mate!
She'd be a cracker for sure in that calibre.
20 rifles look achievable for you mate, how many you end up with God only knows - best of luck in your endeavours!

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: 93x64mm]
      #389671 - 15/02/25 09:45 AM

So whats the pick of them Buckstix, or are they like kids and you are not supposed to have a favorite? I like the Rigby but the Dumoulin looks pretty good.

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: Claydog]
      #389702 - 15/02/25 10:03 PM

Quote:

So whats the pick of them Buckstix, or are they like kids and you are not supposed to have a favorite? I like the Rigby but the Dumoulin looks pretty good.

The 505 Gibbs. This was my first Brevex from 12 years ago that started my collecting Brevex Mausers.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=bigbores&Number=238318

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: buckstix]
      #389962 - 25/02/25 02:03 PM

We are having a warm spell here in Wisconsin so I took the rifle to the range today. My load was very conservative, and very fun to shoot. And, as the target shows - excellent accuracy. Note: The first group was low, so the scope was adjusted for the second group. I have also shown the difference between this wildcat 416-460 Weatherby, compared to the factory 416 Weatherby Mag. It appears the only difference is the neck / shoulder angles.

and as always, your comments are welcome.

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/416-460COMPARE.jpg



http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/416-460TARG-SM.jpg



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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: buckstix]
      #389964 - 25/02/25 06:02 PM

Very nice group indeed!

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: 93x64mm]
      #389976 - 26/02/25 05:33 AM

Nice accurate soft loads.

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: DarylS]
      #389983 - 26/02/25 07:27 AM

You would have to be happy with those groups. That is one sweet rifle.

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: Rule303]
      #389986 - 26/02/25 08:55 AM

Accurate load. Would be pretty comfortable to shoot at those speeds?

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: Claydog]
      #390012 - 27/02/25 09:40 AM

Although a fun load, it still puts out 3,400 ft/lbs muzzle energy. That's more than enough for anything in North America. And if sighted 2" high at 100yds, its only 4" low at 200yds, making it a good plains game load as well. It still retains nearly 2,000 ft/lbs of energy at 200yds.

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: buckstix]
      #390013 - 27/02/25 11:38 AM

I'm a bit confused re the target above. I understand that the scope was adjusted to bring the POI up for the second group but the first group is listed as using Norma brass and the second using Weatherby brass. I thought all Weatherby cartridges were factory loaded by Norma so what is the difference between the brass used for the two groups, if any?
Beautiful grouping by the way, a very useful load.

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Re: Brevex #18 joins the collection - Belgium 416-460 Wby Mag [Re: eagle27]
      #390021 - 27/02/25 03:32 PM

The Norma brass cases were 25 grains heavier than the Weatherby brass cases. The Weatherby cases were formed from 460 Wby Mag brass. The Norma cases were factory new 416 Wby Mag brass.

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