casper50
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I nice oil tin from an English gun case that I got recently along with a shipping label from the top of the case.
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That's a different shape.
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Very nice buy. What does the case look like?
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casper50
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I had new straps made.
Edited by casper50 (01/01/25 04:36 AM)
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Those old wheel guns are pretty cool, too. 
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Wow, I've never seen a gun case with drawers before!
Just a joke on the "optical illusion".
The oil can fits perfectly.
Nice gun room furniture btw.
Do you know who "K. de B.C." was?
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casper50
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Although almost everyone thinks that the Iver Johnson revolvers were cheaply made trash I believe otherwise. If in nice condition they are a good revolver. I believe that their rep is a lot like Belgian guns. Most now are in horrible unsafe condition.
John I haven't tried to do any research on the initials. Not much to go on.
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As things were quiet here after Christmas I dug out my copy of Kelly's Handbook to the Titled, Landed and Official Classes 1905 (always a good read, 1600 pages) and skimmed through all the entries for people with the initials K. de B. C.
I did not find any matches. However the initial K. for a Christian name is very rare, and the only name that fits for this period in Britain is Kenneth.
The initial de B. will probably relate to the surname of some distant ancestor. The main candidate is de Burgh, which seems to be an Irish name.
Otherwise not much help. You can always just call it "Kenneth's gun" ...
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Thanks for trying HB.
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However the initial K. for a Christian name is very rare,
Maybe we who speaks finnish language aren´t any Christians but in Finland K is quite common first alphabet at male´s name.
I just thought that this "K de B.C" could mean "Kari De Before Christ".....
(My fist name is Kari which is here quite ordinary name of male at my age.)
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casper50
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Igorrock in the UK a christian name is another way to say a first name.
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K could be Keith. Karl. Kingsley. Many possibilities.
De could be French, as in "de" or "of".
de B. C. is "of B. C." whether or not a place name. Seeing it's probably hyphenated.
de might also derive from Norman noble ancestry if British. Or ancestry from other later French speaking English territories in France.
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I think it's cool to label gun cases, either embossed into the leather. Or a label inside. And for guns, initials on a estacheon, grip cap, or other embellishment.
It's life,
My grandfather drilled a hold in the butt under the butt plate of his Mauser .22RF. Stored his firearms licence in the hole. Would be cool to keep a history of a rifle in a similar way over its life. For vintage historic firearms.
My Jeffery .450 it would be cool if a Maharajah owned it in his sporting armoury for guests. Then travelled to Australia. A member here owned it before me. The J.J. Hahn, then the next person.
Back to cases, a small way to live in history having ones name embossed on a leather case.
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NitroX
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The shipping sticker
peninsula and Oriental Steam Navigation Company
I believe was Hong Kong based.
Not much help as a steamer might stop off in numerous ports in between.
I can't read the letters on the bottom/reverse side of the circle.
Actually it's probably the original name of the modern P & O shipping, cruiseliner company.
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John,
It says "BAGGAGE", in other words to be stowed in the hold, and so not needed during the voyage, unlike "CABIN".
Might have wanted to shoot ducks whilst in the Suez Canal of course...
Lord Inchcape was the boss/ owner of P&O and bought a castle in SW Scotland at Glenapp, with good shooting there.
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Igorrock in the UK a christian name is another way to say a first name
When you now wrote it I have to say here in Finland has been the same habit in past.
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NitroX
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Christian name and Surname are the correct English terms for English first names and last family name.
But in these days of "Newspeak" using the term "Christian" name might be like a crucifix to a vampire ...
Apologies to the thread opener for all these off topic comments.
Back to K de B C 's gun case.
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