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buckstix
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J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle
#388230 - 14/12/24 03:52 PM

J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle

When searching auctions for good deals, it pays to read past the heading and read the detail description.

This was the case when I saw a heading that read; "J. W. Tolly Rotary-Underlever Hammergun SxS Shotgun 500 Black Powder Express"...

but the detail description read; "J.W. Tolley Rotary Underlever 500 Black Powder Express Double rifle"

When the auction ended I was the high bidder at less than 1/2 the low estimate. Take a look .... what do you think?

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/500t-000.jpg

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DarylS
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: buckstix]
#388231 - 14/12/24 07:37 PM

If you don't bid on these, you lose, BIG TIME!!
Well done buckstix.

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NitroX
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: DarylS]
#388233 - 14/12/24 08:33 PM

$1,000 ! I'm bloody jealous. I paid a lot more for mine in far lesser but original condition i.e. worn. Mine was advertised as a ,410 shotgun. But had express sights. Alas several dudes noticed as well and the price added a ZERO.

Mine isn't a Tolley, it's a Cogswell & Harrison .500 rotary underlever.

Your Tolley looks very much restored. Re-blued, wood re-finished or new wood. Restoring it must have cost $1000 at least (?).

Great buy and find. Hopefully it will shoot well.

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buckstix
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: NitroX]
#388236 - 14/12/24 10:19 PM

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$1,000 ! I'm bloody jealous.

actually ... $900 hammer

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fjrdoc
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: buckstix]
#388237 - 15/12/24 01:06 AM

Call the police! You stole that rifle.

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450_EXPRESS
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: fjrdoc]
#388239 - 15/12/24 01:17 AM

Very good deal

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TH44
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: 450_EXPRESS]
#388244 - 15/12/24 11:55 AM

Buckstix - you do seem to have the ability to grab a bargain!
Well done and enjoy shooting - look forward for range report

TH

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lancaster
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: TH44]
#388280 - 17/12/24 02:44 AM

one of the very few moments I am speechless

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buckstix
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: lancaster]
#388714 - 08/01/25 04:20 PM

Hello all, I got the double in hand today. First thing I did was to look down the barrels .... there is rifling ... its not a shotgun.

The chambers and the rifling were MINT. But when I inserted a 500 bpe cartridge into the chambers, it was way too loose. The chambers were bigger. Turns out this is NOT a 500 bpe. after all, its the larger 577-500 No. 2 bpe. Take a look at the difference between the two cartridges. I have loaded some ammo and a field test will follow. .... Let me know what you think?

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/500vs577-000.jpg

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93x64mm
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: buckstix]
#388723 - 08/01/25 09:54 PM

Oh boy did you ever score big time on this one Buckstix!
Will make an interesting range report - if you choose to go the BP path!
Well done matey - happy new year.

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DarylS
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: 93x64mm]
#388735 - 09/01/25 05:04 AM

Good "Score".

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buckstix
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Re: J.W. Tolley shotgun turns out to be a Double Rifle [Re: 93x64mm]
#388864 - 13/01/25 03:48 PM

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Oh boy did you ever score big time on this one Buckstix!
Will make an interesting range report - if you choose to go the BP path!
Well done matey - happy new year.

I have prior experience with 577-500 from 7 years ago. I used IMR 4198 in place of black powder, with excellent results. here is the post ....

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post320757

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