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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.

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I think the action would fit into a greek stock but it could be the barrel is to thick in diameter.
you have to try it.

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What I hoped was that if the action fit up to the barrel ring then I could request a smaller barrel channel and fit it to the barrel contour on the 1910. I have done that before on the Dutch Mannlicher.

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.

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Member * kuduae may have the answer.

He is _very_ well versed on the subtle differences between models of Mannlicher Schoenauer and of European sporting arms in general.

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Thanks I did send him a PM haven't heard back yet

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.
I have a 1910 MS in 9.5x57 20 inch barrel. It came to me with out a stock, my question is can I fit a Greek pattern stock to accept the 1910 action. I have listed photos on the web site.
The reason I ask is that Richards in Calif does have the Greek pattern and will accommodate the changes ie: full lenght stock and smaller barrel channel as well as a larger butt to fit the trapdoor butt plate.

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I disassembled two of my Mannlicher-Schoenauers for comparision: A M1903 in 6.5x54 M-S by G.Gibbs on an 1905 dated action from the Steyr military production or the Greeks and a M1910 in 9.5x57 M-S built in the 1930s.


There are very few differences: The receeivers proper are the same as to length, diameters and bolt size. Merely the magazine base (# 40 in the old Stoeger parts list posted above by Rothammer) and the floorplate (# 41) are 1 mm `= .04” wider (not longer!) on the 1910. The barrel dimensions are the same. The trap buttplates are interchangeable from the M1903 to the M1925. So I see no major problems apart from a bit of hand inletting on adapting a m1903 stock to a M1910. As the 9.5x57 produces considerable more recoil than the 6.5x54, you should install and glass bed a hidden crossbolt behind that small recoil lug under the receiver ring.

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Ok another question on the 1910 model, did they ever come with a trap door grip cap?

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Why, certainly.

Many 'Take Down Models' had the feature which allowed for storage of sight beads.

My grandfather's cased, 1922 proofed, M1910 TD had a spare sight bead in the grip, wrapped in cheesecloth.

Images swiped from the 'net:







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I assume that the receiver will key into the tang sight slot and
the tang is secured with a bolt through the trigger guard, then secured with a pin through the barrel band which I do not have.
Does this make the rifle a true take down? It does not have the latch in the receiver to release from the trigger guard other than removing the screw.

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Your assumptions are correct.

Refer to the eleventh post of this thread.

Your receiver has the slotted tang as evidenced in post #1.

Your description of stock seems to indicate a 'take down' MS and images a few posts back seem to show proper tang and slot.

Forend pin looks like this:






This is the proper trigger guard for Take Down Model:



Note lever which has pawl to engage 'moon' slot in take down receiver.

You need this and the forend pin to complete a Take Down Model.

Image of trigger guard was from an Ebay listing a year or so ago. Forend pins are unobtanium unless one finds a Take Down 'for parts' that has not lost the most often missing part. If you see an original pin for sale, buy it regardless of cost before it gets away. Otherwise, cozy up to an expert machinist.



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Does this make the rifle a true take down?

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Potato, potatoe (Kartoffeln).

Westley Richards, 1912:





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Another question..... was the model 1910 made as a takedown as well as the smaller calibers. Seems that all the takedowns I have read about were the smaller calibers.

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Models M1903 through M1910 were available in Take Down Form.

I'm fairly certain that another NE member has an M1924 Sequoia in TD, the 1939 Stoeger listings implied that their 'High Velocity' (now commonly known as 'M1925') offerings were also available for order in Take Down form.

I have my Grandfather's cased M1910 Take Down Model with period Gerard Model B 'scope. He purchased it 'second hand' at Colombo, Ceylon in 1930.



John Forrest Easton, M1910 Take Down Model
Buffalo taken at Maha Wewa Tank, 1931.

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Trigger guard looks similar which so-called Greek Mannlicher has.

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I have now gathered all the parts I think I need to get started on a rebuild.

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Images of member Louis' M1905 TD Model: Post 341252





Note trigger guard and forend pin. Louis' TD also does have the grip cap storage as well as an immensely desirable aftermarket aperture ('peep') sight, the Lyman 1A, mounted to back of bolt.



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