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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rolland]
      #388148 - 11/12/24 08:09 AM

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.




I think the action would fit into a greek stock but it could be the barrel is to thick in diameter.
you have to try it.

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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: lancaster]
      #388150 - 11/12/24 09:26 AM

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.




I think the action would fit into a greek stock but it could be the barrel is to thick in diameter.
you have to try it.




What I hoped was that if the action fit up to the barrel ring then I could request a smaller barrel channel and fit it to the barrel contour on the 1910. I have done that before on the Dutch Mannlicher.


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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rolland]
      #388154 - 11/12/24 12:18 PM

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.




Member * kuduae may have the answer.

He is _very_ well versed on the subtle differences between models of Mannlicher Schoenauer and of European sporting arms in general.

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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #388199 - 13/12/24 02:26 PM

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.




Member * kuduae may have the answer.

He is _very_ well versed on the subtle differences between models of Mannlicher Schoenauer and of European sporting arms in general.




Thanks I did send him a PM haven't heard back yet


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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: DarylS]
      #388211 - 14/12/24 03:14 AM

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I am still kinda wandering around in the dark on this rifle as far as a stock. Is the action the same as the Greek?, would the 1910 MS fit in the Greek stock as far as the action size. Reason I ask is I can find a couple of places that make stocks for the Greek actions and if they would fit I might be able to go that direction.
I have a 1910 MS in 9.5x57 20 inch barrel. It came to me with out a stock, my question is can I fit a Greek pattern stock to accept the 1910 action. I have listed photos on the web site.
The reason I ask is that Richards in Calif does have the Greek pattern and will accommodate the changes ie: full lenght stock and smaller barrel channel as well as a larger butt to fit the trapdoor butt plate.




I disassembled two of my Mannlicher-Schoenauers for comparision: A M1903 in 6.5x54 M-S by G.Gibbs on an 1905 dated action from the Steyr military production or the Greeks and a M1910 in 9.5x57 M-S built in the 1930s.


There are very few differences: The receeivers proper are the same as to length, diameters and bolt size. Merely the magazine base (# 40 in the old Stoeger parts list posted above by Rothammer) and the floorplate (# 41) are 1 mm `= .04” wider (not longer!) on the 1910. The barrel dimensions are the same. The trap buttplates are interchangeable from the M1903 to the M1925. So I see no major problems apart from a bit of hand inletting on adapting a m1903 stock to a M1910. As the 9.5x57 produces considerable more recoil than the 6.5x54, you should install and glass bed a hidden crossbolt behind that small recoil lug under the receiver ring.


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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rolland]
      #388291 - 18/12/24 08:12 AM

Ok another question on the 1910 model, did they ever come with a trap door grip cap?

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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rolland]
      #388293 - 18/12/24 12:24 PM

They certainly did, although its not a trapdoor as such but rather a bayonet type where the whole grip cap rotates and is then withdrawn. A small push-button lever is depressed to allow the grip cap to rotate.

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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rolland]
      #388297 - 18/12/24 07:21 PM

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Ok another question on the 1910 model, did they ever come with a trap door grip cap?




Why, certainly.

Many 'Take Down Models' had the feature which allowed for storage of sight beads.

My grandfather's cased, 1922 proofed, M1910 TD had a spare sight bead in the grip, wrapped in cheesecloth.

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Re: Mannlicher description help [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #388314 - 19/12/24 03:05 PM

I worry about that toothpick stock on my 1910 splitting, but I have never tried installing a support behind the recoil lug. I was thinking of using square key stock and Inletting it about a 1/16 deeper than flush and glassing over the top of it, and using a release agent on the action, installing it and allowing the glass to cure.
Does this sound about right?
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