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wkudu
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Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H
#387723 - 15/11/24 02:37 PM

Anyone have a 1936-38 pre 64 winchester model 70 in 300 H/H that they are willing to sell? I targeting that era as they have the matching blueing on the receiver and barrel. I dont think it extended into 1939 but I could be wrong

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: wkudu]
#387742 - 16/11/24 06:12 AM

That era of the M70's, which started production in April of 1936, had the "rudder" safety for the first several thousand rifles built.
My .30 GVT'06 (Sept. 1936) serial # under 2,000 has the rudder safety. It has 2 detent positions only, but 1/2 way between them
with no detent, still allows unloading while the safety in engaged. It swings to the left, rather than the right as in the later M70's.
Beautiful rifles.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: DarylS]
#389709 - 16/02/25 01:42 AM

bump this thread

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LRF
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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: wkudu]
#389739 - 16/02/25 08:42 PM

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Anyone have a 1936-38 pre 64 winchester model 70 in 300 H/H that they are willing to sell? I targeting that era as they have the matching blueing on the receiver and barrel. I dont think it extended into 1939 but I could be wrong

I do indeed have a first years production model 70 in 300 H&H. It is essentially a super grade without saying super grade on the floor plate. (if I remember right SN is 113X) When I got it, it had been drilled for a side scope mount similar to a G&H but that was missing and the screw spacing was not G&H so I custom built a mount and rings and my son used it in Montana to shoot his first Mule deer. He will not sell it so sorry about that. The bluing is wore on the floor plate from carrying but overall it's a very nice rifle. I can understand your attraction to them.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: LRF]
#389754 - 17/02/25 07:45 AM

That's 700 newer than my .30 GVT 06, at 1,83X. Some years ago, we sold 4 or 5 .300H&H Model 70's at our gun show. They, and the one I bought, were part of a collection of a long time retired RCMP S/Sgt., a very close friend of mine. I posted pictures of that '06 when I had a $5.00 photobucket account.
Some of those .300 H&H's looked similar to mine, re-blued and finished, while others were as original.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: LRF]
#389808 - 19/02/25 11:06 PM

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Anyone have a 1936-38 pre 64 winchester model 70 in 300 H/H that they are willing to sell? I targeting that era as they have the matching blueing on the receiver and barrel. I dont think it extended into 1939 but I could be wrong

I do indeed have a first years production model 70 in 300 H&H. It is essentially a super grade without saying super grade on the floor plate. (if I remember right SN is 113X) When I got it, it had been drilled for a side scope mount similar to a G&H but that was missing and the screw spacing was not G&H so I custom built a mount and rings and my son used it in Montana to shoot his first Mule deer. He will not sell it so sorry about that. The bluing is wore on the floor plate from carrying but overall it's a very nice rifle. I can understand your attraction to them.

When I wrote the above I was going off memory which is not not for 75 year old brain cells and not having seen the rifle for a few years as my son has it in his safe. Well the serial number on ours is 4529, production year 1937. Of note is the barrel is marked 300 magnum because as I understand they were not known as H&H until Winchester came out with their own 300 win mag.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: LRF]
#389825 - 20/02/25 06:42 AM

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Of note is the barrel is marked 300 magnum because as I understand they were not known as H&H until Winchester came out with their own 300 win mag.

I have seen same detail on old SAKO High Power. SAKO never made it in .300 WinMag but both .300 H&H + .375 H&H.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: Igorrock]
#389847 - 21/02/25 05:55 AM

That's something interesting to know. Thanks.
Similar that black powder was simply known as gun powder, not black powder until after smokeless powder was developed.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: DarylS]
#389851 - 21/02/25 07:03 AM

According to COTW, when the 300 H&H Magnum was introduced in 1925 by the firm Holland and Holland it was called "Hollands Super 30" and presumably their own produced rifles carried that particular iteration. Not sure why other iterations would be required to distinguish the cartridge from any of the the other 300 magnums as they were introduced in later years.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: eagle27]
#389858 - 21/02/25 09:08 AM

I agree, HS.30 would be all that's necessary.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: DarylS]
#389859 - 21/02/25 10:13 AM

Kind of doesn't matter what they could have would have named their guns at Winchester I was just saying this is what they did name then until the 300 Win Mag was introduced.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: LRF]
#389860 - 21/02/25 10:47 AM

It was also the name used at Holland & Holland at the time, as well as in ammunition catalogs until the 300 WM came along.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#389866 - 21/02/25 11:11 PM

Just a note of caution to buyers, It is my understanding, if you find a nice old M70 and its factory marked 300 Magnum or 300 H&H magnum beware many of these guns were rechambered back in the Weatherby hay day days and are now 300 Weatherby's. And never re-stamped. I think they may even chamber a 300 H&H (could be a slight length issue) but of course the results if fired (Weatherby shoulder diameter is larger) will not be what is desired. Of course the gun is perfectly safe in the Weatherby but just may not be what you thought you purchased.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: LRF]
#389867 - 21/02/25 11:22 PM

Just for fun, I mentioned I had to make a new scope mount to match existing holes someone else had drilled in the side for a G&H style mount which was missing when I bought it. So here are a couple pics of the mount. It is a one lever style detachable so you can use the old Lyman receiver sight if wanted. Anyway it works good and my son shot his first Mule deer with it.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: LRF]
#389874 - 22/02/25 05:49 AM

I see the "Rudder" safety. I had previously thought that was stopped before 3,000 serial #'s. Guess not.
Called the "Rudder" safety as it looks like the rudder off a Sopwith Camel or the French Newports.

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Re: Win70 pre 64 .300 H/H [Re: DarylS]
#389881 - 22/02/25 07:50 AM

Great rifle you have there LRF!
Great work on the 'new' side mount, looks spiffy & really suits your old 70!
Lovely to hear it still being used for for it was designed to do - getting game.

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